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Tom Drake

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Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And of course, that plane flew a lot lower. We're talking about 20,000 feet, 15,000, 20,000 feet. It could go higher, but that was sort of its normal operating thing. And it's a prop plane, turboprop, four-engine. Accidentally flipped on the switch. Oh. and shut down. Good news, rather remote part of the Western, this Western part of the United States shut down radio stations in the area.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And of course, that plane flew a lot lower. We're talking about 20,000 feet, 15,000, 20,000 feet. It could go higher, but that was sort of its normal operating thing. And it's a prop plane, turboprop, four-engine. Accidentally flipped on the switch. Oh. and shut down. Good news, rather remote part of the Western, this Western part of the United States shut down radio stations in the area.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And of course, that plane flew a lot lower. We're talking about 20,000 feet, 15,000, 20,000 feet. It could go higher, but that was sort of its normal operating thing. And it's a prop plane, turboprop, four-engine. Accidentally flipped on the switch. Oh. and shut down. Good news, rather remote part of the Western, this Western part of the United States shut down radio stations in the area.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

People were calling in saying, what happened to the radio station, right? Whoops, whoops, whoops. Oh man. What plane is this?

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

People were calling in saying, what happened to the radio station, right? Whoops, whoops, whoops. Oh man. What plane is this?

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

People were calling in saying, what happened to the radio station, right? Whoops, whoops, whoops. Oh man. What plane is this?

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

So I was also a contractor at NSA. This is where I was at Booz Allen Hamilton and later with a couple of boutique.coms doing management information technology consulting. Okay. So I had become very, very familiar with NSA. And I was actually working on a special program called Jackpot, which was an out-of-the-box program, separately funded, had five-year funding.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

So I was also a contractor at NSA. This is where I was at Booz Allen Hamilton and later with a couple of boutique.coms doing management information technology consulting. Okay. So I had become very, very familiar with NSA. And I was actually working on a special program called Jackpot, which was an out-of-the-box program, separately funded, had five-year funding.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

So I was also a contractor at NSA. This is where I was at Booz Allen Hamilton and later with a couple of boutique.coms doing management information technology consulting. Okay. So I had become very, very familiar with NSA. And I was actually working on a special program called Jackpot, which was an out-of-the-box program, separately funded, had five-year funding.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

It was actually part of, interestingly enough, Al Gore's Reinventing Government Initiative. Now, Al Gore did not invent the internet. That's a popular meme at the time. It was basically an expand internet, enhance internet. But under reinventing, a number of agencies were given special money to take the best of American ingenuity and innovativeness in the IT digital space and bring it in NSA.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

It was actually part of, interestingly enough, Al Gore's Reinventing Government Initiative. Now, Al Gore did not invent the internet. That's a popular meme at the time. It was basically an expand internet, enhance internet. But under reinventing, a number of agencies were given special money to take the best of American ingenuity and innovativeness in the IT digital space and bring it in NSA.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

It was actually part of, interestingly enough, Al Gore's Reinventing Government Initiative. Now, Al Gore did not invent the internet. That's a popular meme at the time. It was basically an expand internet, enhance internet. But under reinventing, a number of agencies were given special money to take the best of American ingenuity and innovativeness in the IT digital space and bring it in NSA.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

NSA had become very institutionalized. It had become very reliant on its legacy. This gets into, you've got to remember, it was designed to deal with a very rigid command and control system called the Soviet Union primarily, even though it had a worldwide mission. But that was its primary focus. Even when I flew in RCs, the bulk of the linguists, the crypto linguists were Russian. Not all of them.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

NSA had become very institutionalized. It had become very reliant on its legacy. This gets into, you've got to remember, it was designed to deal with a very rigid command and control system called the Soviet Union primarily, even though it had a worldwide mission. But that was its primary focus. Even when I flew in RCs, the bulk of the linguists, the crypto linguists were Russian. Not all of them.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

NSA had become very institutionalized. It had become very reliant on its legacy. This gets into, you've got to remember, it was designed to deal with a very rigid command and control system called the Soviet Union primarily, even though it had a worldwide mission. But that was its primary focus. Even when I flew in RCs, the bulk of the linguists, the crypto linguists were Russian. Not all of them.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And I had to know enough Russian to understand it, which is another part of my job. But the primary function, the primary, in terms of the set of people that were on that plane were Russian. Just by virtue of the priority. So Cold War ends. I'm sitting on desks that are dealing with emerging threats. but it was being basically ignored or dismissed by those in power.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And I had to know enough Russian to understand it, which is another part of my job. But the primary function, the primary, in terms of the set of people that were on that plane were Russian. Just by virtue of the priority. So Cold War ends. I'm sitting on desks that are dealing with emerging threats. but it was being basically ignored or dismissed by those in power.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And I had to know enough Russian to understand it, which is another part of my job. But the primary function, the primary, in terms of the set of people that were on that plane were Russian. Just by virtue of the priority. So Cold War ends. I'm sitting on desks that are dealing with emerging threats. but it was being basically ignored or dismissed by those in power.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Wasn't. That's right. Yeah. So, but I was working on this special program called Jackpot. So we're now bringing in the best because they realized, here's the kicker, the key, but it's a kicker. They did study after study after study. Some were pretty significant, including a Rand Corporation study. There was others. including stakeholders with the oversight committees.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Wasn't. That's right. Yeah. So, but I was working on this special program called Jackpot. So we're now bringing in the best because they realized, here's the kicker, the key, but it's a kicker. They did study after study after study. Some were pretty significant, including a Rand Corporation study. There was others. including stakeholders with the oversight committees.