Tom Drake
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He did not take kindly to my blowing the whistle. I sent him a letter. Caused quite a stir. But the last thing, Trailblazer, they had decided Trailblazer, it basically got canceled in 2006. But he was convinced that he could do it better. And there was a following program called Turbulence, all these T programs. Yeah, T programs. See, this is the kicker for me.
I'm just on a kind of a weird masculine, this masculine level. We had the T at NSA. The T in NSA had already been fully demonstrated, okay? But low T is what they focused on. Right. As much as they projected high T, I'm just, I've never said this before, it was low T for sure. Look, if you take on and you solve the problem, that has its own reward. It's not about spending money.
I'm just on a kind of a weird masculine, this masculine level. We had the T at NSA. The T in NSA had already been fully demonstrated, okay? But low T is what they focused on. Right. As much as they projected high T, I'm just, I've never said this before, it was low T for sure. Look, if you take on and you solve the problem, that has its own reward. It's not about spending money.
I'm just on a kind of a weird masculine, this masculine level. We had the T at NSA. The T in NSA had already been fully demonstrated, okay? But low T is what they focused on. Right. As much as they projected high T, I'm just, I've never said this before, it was low T for sure. Look, if you take on and you solve the problem, that has its own reward. It's not about spending money.
You want to make sure you create and deploy systems that actually provide for the common defense. So he didn't like it. Shortly thereafter, middle of December, this above the fold, old school print newspaper, New York Times, Eric Lichtblau, James Risen publishes for the first time exposure of this warrantless wiretapping program that had been in existence just after 9-11.
You want to make sure you create and deploy systems that actually provide for the common defense. So he didn't like it. Shortly thereafter, middle of December, this above the fold, old school print newspaper, New York Times, Eric Lichtblau, James Risen publishes for the first time exposure of this warrantless wiretapping program that had been in existence just after 9-11.
You want to make sure you create and deploy systems that actually provide for the common defense. So he didn't like it. Shortly thereafter, middle of December, this above the fold, old school print newspaper, New York Times, Eric Lichtblau, James Risen publishes for the first time exposure of this warrantless wiretapping program that had been in existence just after 9-11.
Now, there was a huge scramble in the entire intelligence community, but particularly the NSA. They went apoplectic. Bush, there's public statements. You go on the internet, you'll see public statements from Cheney and Bush and a bunch of others about, oh my gosh, They just blew, it was one of the most secret programs. Yeah. It was one of the most secret programs in history in modern America.
Now, there was a huge scramble in the entire intelligence community, but particularly the NSA. They went apoplectic. Bush, there's public statements. You go on the internet, you'll see public statements from Cheney and Bush and a bunch of others about, oh my gosh, They just blew, it was one of the most secret programs. Yeah. It was one of the most secret programs in history in modern America.
Now, there was a huge scramble in the entire intelligence community, but particularly the NSA. They went apoplectic. Bush, there's public statements. You go on the internet, you'll see public statements from Cheney and Bush and a bunch of others about, oh my gosh, They just blew, it was one of the most secret programs. Yeah. It was one of the most secret programs in history in modern America.
What year did this come out? This was December 2005. Still out there. Okay. The article itself.
What year did this come out? This was December 2005. Still out there. Okay. The article itself.
What year did this come out? This was December 2005. Still out there. Okay. The article itself.
Okay. Remember, I've been following all the developments internally. The program was rapidly metastasizing, even before it got out in public. Remember, I'm going through channels. I'm spending lots of time in front of investigators, sharing with them what I know. Right. At great risk.
Okay. Remember, I've been following all the developments internally. The program was rapidly metastasizing, even before it got out in public. Remember, I'm going through channels. I'm spending lots of time in front of investigators, sharing with them what I know. Right. At great risk.
Okay. Remember, I've been following all the developments internally. The program was rapidly metastasizing, even before it got out in public. Remember, I'm going through channels. I'm spending lots of time in front of investigators, sharing with them what I know. Right. At great risk.
Extraordinarily risk. Again, I was already... So... article comes out two weeks later a massive national security leak investigation is launched by the doj i knew even when the article came out a couple weeks earlier in december 2005 that i would be immediately targeted right because so few people do in fact this program was so secret that the only authorizing document was a letter
Extraordinarily risk. Again, I was already... So... article comes out two weeks later a massive national security leak investigation is launched by the doj i knew even when the article came out a couple weeks earlier in december 2005 that i would be immediately targeted right because so few people do in fact this program was so secret that the only authorizing document was a letter
Extraordinarily risk. Again, I was already... So... article comes out two weeks later a massive national security leak investigation is launched by the doj i knew even when the article came out a couple weeks earlier in december 2005 that i would be immediately targeted right because so few people do in fact this program was so secret that the only authorizing document was a letter
memo that was stored in david addington's safe chief of staff slash attorney for cheney in his office safe wow even nsa sent their own attorneys down to get a to get the authorization because they were so worried they wouldn't have cover You always look at what's the cover. You want a lawful order. You get into lawful orders. I know that from the Uniform Code of Military Justice.