Travis Kitchens

So downtown Baltimore, you've got the Homewood campus, and then by my house in East Baltimore, which is actually Greektown, which is ironic considering the context here, But Bayview Hospital has the National Institute to Drug Abuse. They have the Joseph V. Brady Behavioral Biology Center, which is where we were at. Because remember, people get confused. They think these are studies in drugs.

So downtown Baltimore, you've got the Homewood campus, and then by my house in East Baltimore, which is actually Greektown, which is ironic considering the context here, But Bayview Hospital has the National Institute to Drug Abuse. They have the Joseph V. Brady Behavioral Biology Center, which is where we were at. Because remember, people get confused. They think these are studies in drugs.

So downtown Baltimore, you've got the Homewood campus, and then by my house in East Baltimore, which is actually Greektown, which is ironic considering the context here, But Bayview Hospital has the National Institute to Drug Abuse. They have the Joseph V. Brady Behavioral Biology Center, which is where we were at. Because remember, people get confused. They think these are studies in drugs.

They're not chopping up mushrooms and looking at them and putting under microscopes. They're studying religion and they're studying human behavior. They're interested in the intersection of religion. Religion and human behavior. That's what the studies are looking at. They're looking into religious experience and mystical experience, though it's sold as a study looking into the effects of drugs.

They're not chopping up mushrooms and looking at them and putting under microscopes. They're studying religion and they're studying human behavior. They're interested in the intersection of religion. Religion and human behavior. That's what the studies are looking at. They're looking into religious experience and mystical experience, though it's sold as a study looking into the effects of drugs.

They're not chopping up mushrooms and looking at them and putting under microscopes. They're studying religion and they're studying human behavior. They're interested in the intersection of religion. Religion and human behavior. That's what the studies are looking at. They're looking into religious experience and mystical experience, though it's sold as a study looking into the effects of drugs.

Well, I got out of the study, and like most people, you know, I had five very powerful experiences. Though I had done psychedelics before, I never had anything remotely close to what I would call a mystical, spiritual, or religious experience. Taking drugs in one of these studies with a particular playlist blindfolded Music playlist?

Well, I got out of the study, and like most people, you know, I had five very powerful experiences. Though I had done psychedelics before, I never had anything remotely close to what I would call a mystical, spiritual, or religious experience. Taking drugs in one of these studies with a particular playlist blindfolded Music playlist?

Well, I got out of the study, and like most people, you know, I had five very powerful experiences. Though I had done psychedelics before, I never had anything remotely close to what I would call a mystical, spiritual, or religious experience. Taking drugs in one of these studies with a particular playlist blindfolded Music playlist?

Music playlist that's intended to drive a particular type of experience. They're trying to cultivate a very particular kind of experience. They're not going to let you pick the playlist or just hang out and take drugs. It's not like going to Grateful Dead. So they are masters at inducing a particular kind of experience that they believe is therapeutic and then studying the effects of the drugs.

Music playlist that's intended to drive a particular type of experience. They're trying to cultivate a very particular kind of experience. They're not going to let you pick the playlist or just hang out and take drugs. It's not like going to Grateful Dead. So they are masters at inducing a particular kind of experience that they believe is therapeutic and then studying the effects of the drugs.

Music playlist that's intended to drive a particular type of experience. They're trying to cultivate a very particular kind of experience. They're not going to let you pick the playlist or just hang out and take drugs. It's not like going to Grateful Dead. So they are masters at inducing a particular kind of experience that they believe is therapeutic and then studying the effects of the drugs.

So when did I begin to question the aim of the study? Yeah, and first of all, how long did you do it?

So when did I begin to question the aim of the study? Yeah, and first of all, how long did you do it?

So when did I begin to question the aim of the study? Yeah, and first of all, how long did you do it?

Well, it lasted several months because after one particularly powerful trip, it had weird effects on me. And Roland Griffiths said, let's wait a couple of weeks. And normally you do five in a row, five Fridays in a row. I ended up skipping a couple because of what happened in one session that was DXM.

Well, it lasted several months because after one particularly powerful trip, it had weird effects on me. And Roland Griffiths said, let's wait a couple of weeks. And normally you do five in a row, five Fridays in a row. I ended up skipping a couple because of what happened in one session that was DXM.

Well, it lasted several months because after one particularly powerful trip, it had weird effects on me. And Roland Griffiths said, let's wait a couple of weeks. And normally you do five in a row, five Fridays in a row. I ended up skipping a couple because of what happened in one session that was DXM.

DXM is the active ingredient in Robitussin. I used to live in San Diego with a bunch of Navy guys, my brothers in the Navy, and they would do what's called robo-tripping. You just drink a bunch of Robitussin. Oh, yeah, I'm familiar.

DXM is the active ingredient in Robitussin. I used to live in San Diego with a bunch of Navy guys, my brothers in the Navy, and they would do what's called robo-tripping. You just drink a bunch of Robitussin. Oh, yeah, I'm familiar.