Trita Parsi

Thanks for doing this.

Thank you for having me.

Is this deal real?

I think so.

I think this is a significant achievement, but nothing is fully real until they manage to get to the final agreement.

And we already have a precedent in which we also see

that when there was a final agreement, which there was in 2015 that Obama struck, it didn't mean that it necessarily would last because Trump walked out of that deal.

So if this is something we want, we have to work at it.

We have to work to keep it.

These things are not part of the background that you can keep without putting any effort into it.

And right now we're not even halfway to the distance, but this is an important development.

So what are the key deal points as they're emerging to the extent we know now?

First of all, we don't know enough because at the end of the day, there's been just so many different versions that have been floating around.

And some of them frankly do seem to be sabotage efforts.

There's some of the hardline media in Iran that has been sending out these versions of the deal that I think deliberately were trying to raise people's expectations in order to make the final deal look bad.

And they're doing it because they're trying to sabotage.

The Pedari faction in Iran, super hardliners are dead set against it.

In fact, there were protests that they organized, not huge ones in any way, shape or form, particularly for a city of 10 million or plus in Tehran, but they were protesting outside of the Iranian foreign ministry and calling for the death of the foreign minister and the speaker of the parliament who'd been negotiating this deal.

So we should not for a second forget that there's a faction in Iran that is really against this.

but based on what it seems likely to have included.