Tyler Henry

And safe. And I think that's one of the biggest things. Relationships should provide safety.

A sense of inner safety, stability, a soft place to fall. And you can get a sense if someone makes you feel safe or not if you're honest with yourself.

20 episodes. I'm trying to get like y'all. I know. Yes.

A lot of sleep. I take a lot of naps, which is very boring of an answer. That's okay. I'm actually jealous. I could use a nap right now. Take some Z-Quilt. We're going to do it. Naps are great. I love a nap. Yeah. You know, for anyone, whether we're doing interviews, you know, whether we're doing readings, there's an exchange process.

And you just have to kind of honor your inner boundaries and get rest as needed if you can.

Oh, God. What happens when you wake up 45 minutes in with like slobber? You need another 45 minutes. My one eye is like hardened. I don't want to go to work. I wake up all grumpy and sad. You ever do that after a nap?

What day is it? Yeah, what year? Disassociation?

No, I've never woken up like that. Those are good genes. Good genes. Mine, the inner demons generation, we start coming in after a nap.

When I first started, a lot of the emphasis was on closure, people coming to try to get closure. And as time went on, I learned that there is no closure to grief. To close grief would be to close the love. That it is an ongoing process, something that we carry with us. And, you know, moving forward isn't letting go.

And it's a lifelong process more akin to a comma in a sentence than a period, right? It's not something to be ended or finalized. It's something we carry with us and gives opportunities for us to love more deeply.

We got it down. And when the show started, I heard Amanda Klutz might be one of the moderators. I was like, I have to have her. She's perfect. The show was at such a timely time. you know, premiere in the sense that they came out, I believe, on Nick's birthday. Yeah. And then it's finishing up on Amanda Clute's birthday.

That's incredible. And I always find it so interesting what people feel inclined to do, like our inclinations, why we do this versus that. Because it's often intuition. I wonder if that radio DJ who was like playing the things, if something didn't just kind of pop in his head and go play that song. Yeah, he felt something.

you know because we wouldn't even know it'd be random why why do we feel inclined to do the random things that we do we never know the impact it could have yeah it's powerful i never thought of it that way tyler but yeah must have right he was like hey she's listening no that's incredible so how would you say your perspective on love has evolved through everything that you've been through

So there was something kind of uncanny, kismet about that, that I thought really spoke to how she was meant to be a part of it.

Yeah. We're only together for about 42 minutes. And it's a lot of me just kind of rambling like Otome Brown and people responding. But Amanda asks such good thought provoking questions and gives clarity often that's necessary in these readings because I often know what I'm seeing and the client often knows what I'm referring to. But the audience often doesn't.

Why can't I do it all?

I love that. I think foots with clutes is good. We'll take shoe wear. You've been thinking about that. Absolutely. We'll do a crossover. It'll give you wings, like elevation. Yeah. We're still working on the branding.

You had that in the back of your head for a little bit. I was trying to go through all the variations.

Okay, that settles it. We're selling this. Yeah, there we go. You and me.

And so Amanda does a great job at filling in those blanks.

I can't put a foot in front of the other foot. If they asked me to do a sobriety test, I would fail. I was watching Cops the other day. They're like, now do the alphabet backwards. I was like, Z, Y, W.

Yeah, I'm going to jail. I'm sober, I promise. Get it ready. I can barely do it the right way. Throw out a rug.

Give me a little puppy pad. I'm ready. Put me in the pen.

No.

Have them call my people.

That'd be lit. I'll just have an epileptic seizure. Truly, like, it was a lot coming through. You would love it. It'd be a mess. Can you imagine all the audience? They'd start reading people. Just like, grandma's party, grandma's party, grandma's party, grandma's party, grandma's party. Just like, no, it'd be awful and distracting and weird performance art.

Can we cut? Yeah. Wah, wah.

That's it.

I can't wait. My arteries are just fried with French fry grease. So as we take proper, it's slowly gradually like heparin.

It's easy. You don't even know they're vegetables.

We've got branding deals ahead of us. I see that in your future.

You know, I've, Embrace skepticism. I think it's important to be a reasonable human being, to not lose our critical thinking skills. I think that what I do in many ways is very polarizing in the sense that people have an idea of what a medium is. And what I do is very different from a lot of what people even think it is that I do. I just sit with people.

I don't know my heart's like racing just right now just thinking about it it's like you see weight being lifted off their shoulders you know and that's powerful or they they laugh for the first time about something and it's it's really beautiful yeah you know there are so few outlets in society for people to openly discuss grief yeah I'm so proud of this platform because it's allowed people to honor their feelings some people that are public figures that we recognize on tv and others you know everyday folks and it just speaks to the fact that it's a universal experience and

I share moments where I have things pop in my head and I relay it and people cry. Yeah. And they acknowledged that whatever popped in my head made sense to their life and they were left better. It's hard to be skeptical around that. Fundamentally, if you're just having a conversation, you say things that happen to be meaningful and then they're true.

But yeah, by and large, I embrace all different forms of belief. I think there's a beauty in that diversity. And yeah, for me, I'm just there to kind of give an experience to a person with the goal of helping them.

You get to a point in your self-awareness where you kind of quit caring. If you know yourself, anything anyone says about you, you know when you put your head on the pillow whether it's true or not. And if you know that you're on the right, then...

Oh, my gosh. The Traitors would be a really interesting show to go on. They're getting some leverage now, I think, in their second season. It's kind of based off of, like, you know. who's doing what, who's up to what. I feel like everyone would expect a medium to just say who the winner's gonna be. That's very boring.

Big Brother would be interesting. I got an offer there once. Oh, did you? Yeah, that'd be weird. Celebrity Big Brother. You pulled the curtain back too much to see how the sausage is made. They see my chest hair and my seven chins. They're like, this guy's not mystical. You can't hide. Yeah, no. No.

Eating French fries. Let's be real here. You know me.

That's all right.

So cool. What a beautiful memory, too.

If I could give one message from the other side, I would say that they encourage us to live our lives in such a way, regardless of what we believe or disbelieve, so as to prevent future regret. If we can say it now to the people we love, if we can validate and hype up the people who are still here and give them their flowers.

then we can truly prevent future regret. Death by default, we always have regrets. I think in almost all cases, it's normal for the grief process to be like, I should have called more. I should have done more. But if you can kind of do what you can now, it just saves a lot of pain in the future.

I love that. Say it now.

Yes.

Twins.

The way that we all kind of honor that process, it's sharing an experience that honors not just loss, but love. And that's really what it's all about.

Live your life. And have the courage to show up. That's so true in love, in connections with our loved ones who've passed. It's easy to just hermetically seal ourselves in a room. And whether it's the grief process or pursuing love, it can be overwhelming and make us not want to leave.

But if we can put ourselves out there, if we can have the courage to do different things, we get sometimes new results. And it can lead to an extraordinary life we would have never seen possible. Yeah, so true. Yeah.

Amazing.

That's right.

Did it scare you? Well, you know, I had my first premonition when I was 10 years old. I saw that my grandmother.

It was going to pass. Yeah. At 10 years old, you're still trying to figure out like addition, subtraction, multiplication. Right from left. Yeah.

And yeah. And, you know, it was a big kind of a burden as a child. I didn't recognize it as an ability. It was just something that happened randomly. And then, you know, these moments of knowingness continued as I would go about my day to day life. But it was something that didn't come with a manual. You can't go to college to become what this is.

And so it was a lot of trial and error and just learning.

My mom was the first person I told about that initial premonition of the death of my dad's mom. And then we kept it a secret from my dad for six years. Six years. And so when I was finally 16, I had to kind of come out of the broom closet and be like, you know, talk to people who passed.

Yeah. He didn't really even know what a medium was to him. It was like a shirt size.

And I was still like trying to figure out like what's going on. Like, is it people who fast? Is it just intuition? But it ended up being, yeah, a journey.

It's rare that we get to buddy up outside of Netflix Live, so we're excited to be here.

Funny looking, thank you. These dead ends, they're picking up on me.

Yeah, well, long story short, I graduated high school at the age of 16 with the goal of trying to become a hospice nurse because I thought, you know, as a medium,

your options are kind of limited you can do readings publicly you can do like life insurance salesman might have been a good one hospice nurse was high up there but that was my goal and then as I was in school one of the youngest in my class I was doing readings through word of mouth and people started literally coming to my front door and leaving notes and I ended up reading the dean of the college which was insane and yeah it all kind of went

He literally was like, you need to consider what you did for me doing that for other people because it really helped me. And he got a genuine experience out of it.

Hanford, California.

Yeah. Central California outside of Fresno. It's kind of near Armona, Lemoore.

Middle of nowhere.

Yes.

No, I wish. It would have been easier to explain what it is more than just that intermediary range between two things. But yeah, not a lot of representation as far as mediums or even alternative spiritualities, which I embrace all forms of belief. And despite growing up in a very conservative Christian upbringing, just evolved in trust and faith.

And if anything, have a more reinforced sense of spirituality. So it's inclusive.

That's right.

Yes, it was like 19. So I didn't know who half the people were. Did you get any autographs? You should have had a t-shirt. I should have gotten a t-shirt. Like sign my baby. I should have got like a magic eight ball and had them sign the magic eight ball. It probably would be worth a lot. That would be so cool. Yeah, but I often saved their scribbles after the readings.

We do. Almost down to the same shade.

So I have them as like a little memento.

That's crazy. Well, and being on the talk, I mean, how many interviews were there?

That's insane. That's amazing.

You know, I think people often ask about love when it comes to readings. And naturally, when I talk about people who've passed, very often we touch on their lives and the lives of the people they leave behind. And by default, oftentimes, you know, the exciting things, the engagements, the marriages, they often come through with acknowledgments of the divorces and the harder things.

And it just speaks to life experience and the fact that they come through and still prioritize our well-being. So very many instances I'll refer not only to the fact that a grandmother who isn't able to be here physically is, you know, attending the wedding.

Yes.

And then I'll refer to a specific detail of something that was done for grandma at the wedding that one couldn't guess or know through other means. And that just reinforces that there's some connection, even if they're not physically here.

Yeah, we're in the same family. Warm tones.

Or given the choice between two people, you know, you know this one more than that one. Do you ever say something? There are times. He does. The thing is, I think that, you know, my goal is to always leave people better than I find them. But I find that when people ask for love advice often, they often already know the answer. You already know. You already know. You're just looking for validation.

And when you come up with a detail that couldn't be guessed, couldn't be Googled, and it's something they just did or just discussed in the car, they're like, wait a minute.

She was like, oh, geez, I think I had that hunch, but now we know.

Oh, my. Got the approval stamp from upper management.

I love that.

It was very, very cute.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

It goes to show they see the peaks and the valleys of our lives. I think one of the most compelling things about what comes through is often the emphasis on levity and humor and in some ways not taking things so seriously.

And though they seem to not be very clear on, you know, the grand scheme, like purpose or, you know, theology or the bigger questions, they seem to kind of give hints that perhaps the reason we're here is to love. Yeah. And to focus on the levity, the moments that give us relief from the darkness of existence.

Well. Intuition is something of an inner tuition. I think it's kind of an inner knowledge, a compass that never truly leads us astray. And when it comes to love life, I mean so much about that is about compatibility, finding someone that is going to grow with you and that you're going to grow together with.

And I think intuition does allow very often to kind of get a sense of if somebody is in alignment with the long-term goals.

or not and being able to refine that's a very valuable tool i knew the second i met my current partner that he and i were going to be together that i was destined to marry him and we've been together now for almost a decade and i've never had a single doubt every day is further reinforced that and i can really only credit intuition to that fact when you know you know but you have to know yourself in order to know what's going to enhance your life

Online. It was very, not a very romantic story. We were in Verona, Italy, and I was throwing pebbles at his window on Twitter.

Well, let's romanticize it. Yes, I was like 19, and his mom had watched my show, and she had reached out, and then he tweeted me. He was just from the middle of nowhere in Georgia, just a good old southern boy. And I reached out back to him, and we just had an immediate connection, and then he moved to California. Aww. We, um, yeah, moved in like within 24 to 48 business hours.

Like it was pretty, I mean, we were at the light speed of a lesbian. Like we were, we, we, you, our relationship, I was like, you're moving in. We're getting married. We're having a German shepherd farm. Like it was like, bam, bam, bam.

He tried to get out the lock, the doors were locked.

Well, you know, doing the show had never been done before in a live format. So a medium doing readings unedited, you know, with no real ability to cut things out that are perhaps incorrect. It was a lot of pressure.

Dating, I mean, for me, it was an easy case of being able to kind of determine like what I resonated with, what I didn't. And there were a lot of people who I'd met before that I just didn't vibe with. I think really just everybody has intuition. The more you know yourself, the more you can identify what's right for you. So self-awareness is important. What's your advice for that?

And like inner narrative versus intuition and being able to navigate both of those is tricky because the more we know our inner narratives, the more we can discern it between what we want versus what we need.

And allowed me, I think, to demonstrate the process. And I wasn't afraid of that challenge. I wanted to in fact meet that and demonstrate the process. Because it's one thing to see readings like edited together in a highlight reel, but to really demonstrate how it comes to me and then how that relates to how other people might relate to their own loved ones, it's really special.

Right.

It certainly can be. There's a book by Gavin DeBecker. He's a security analyst. He wrote a book called The Gift of Fear. And it was all about how intuition can save our life.

How sometimes, you know, a first time meeting in a sense, an introduction, a sense of unease or uncanniness. Sometimes we are behooved to listen to those things, even if they don't make logical sense in the moment. And there's a way to still be intuitive, but be kind. There's a way to set up boundaries with people in a nice way. And, you know, going with their intuition doesn't mean we have to be.

Like, no, I don't like you the second I meet you. But, you know, knowing yourself.

Yeah. Yeah.

I go back and forth between, like, predetermination, meaning that everything's, like, set up in advance versus free will. And I go back and forth. There's a philosophical argument called compatibilism, which actually integrates both. That some things could be free will and some things might be preestablished.

That's a tricky one because like I don't know about that one fully. I think there's a lot of people we could be compatible with on some level. I think the soulmate thing kind of goes back to the twin flame thing, which is kind of like controversial. Are we really made for one person? I don't know. I think there's a lot of people we could be compatible with.

But it's like alchemy. When two people meet and they're changed forever, it's like a reaction and both leave unlike how they first were when they met. Right. Yeah.

And now we've done it for over about 20 episodes.

Soul sisters. A good indicator of like a soulmate-like person I've found, people will often say, oh, they felt so familiar. Yeah. I felt like I'd met them before. When you meet some people, you just immediately settle into their bones. You're just like, oh, I like you. This is easy. This feels natural.