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There's just so much new here. Like, really listening to you right now, it seems... Like, do you ever look back and think like, did I not, did I even know what I was doing? But like, just that nothing, there was no infrastructure for this care in the United States. Were you ever just nervous about doing it at all?

So what did you start to see over time as more of these clinics opened up? What was your sense of how they were approaching things? It definitely shifted.

So what did you start to see over time as more of these clinics opened up? What was your sense of how they were approaching things? It definitely shifted.

Laura talked about a conference in 2015. You were both on a panel.

Laura talked about a conference in 2015. You were both on a panel.

She also said you got a standing ovation. Does that track with, do you have a similar memory of how this happened, this played out?

She also said you got a standing ovation. Does that track with, do you have a similar memory of how this happened, this played out?

So, Joe, Dr. Joe Olson-Kennedy, do you pronounce your name Johanna or Johanna? Johanna.

So, Joe, Dr. Joe Olson-Kennedy, do you pronounce your name Johanna or Johanna? Johanna.

So can you tell me about your own work here? When did you actually start providing this care?

So can you tell me about your own work here? When did you actually start providing this care?

It sounds like it intuitively made so much sense to you that you didn't have to wait till 2011 or whenever they published their first batch of data on these kids.

It sounds like it intuitively made so much sense to you that you didn't have to wait till 2011 or whenever they published their first batch of data on these kids.

That's right. When you started incorporating puberty blockers into your treatment here in L.A., were you following that protocol that they had introduced over there?

That's right. When you started incorporating puberty blockers into your treatment here in L.A., were you following that protocol that they had introduced over there?

Can you talk about that a little more? Like, do you think... Is that what you do? Do you think assessment is sort of it's clearly trying to get a sense of greater certainty about how a kid will identify in the future? You're laughing. So I want to hear what your thoughts are about that. I hope that if they figured that out, they would publish that.

Can you talk about that a little more? Like, do you think... Is that what you do? Do you think assessment is sort of it's clearly trying to get a sense of greater certainty about how a kid will identify in the future? You're laughing. So I want to hear what your thoughts are about that. I hope that if they figured that out, they would publish that.

But it was also the only data that we had at that point, right? The Dutch by 2011, that was the only data we had.

But it was also the only data that we had at that point, right? The Dutch by 2011, that was the only data we had.

It's a different process for each child. Young people and their families come in in very different stages of this process. It's really important just to support your kid. And what does support look like? It's different for each kid.