Vika Krieger

And I say, yeah, but I grew up L.A.

Orthodox.

And what does that mean?

So I think there was like a little bit more permeability, right?

Like in Williamsburg, you'd think like if a kid grew up in Williamsburg, it's like, oh, they've got this kind of like super austere Orthodox upbringing, but you got hipsters, you got clubs and coffee shops.

You'd think that some of that would permeate in.

But in Williamsburg and other of these like ultra Orthodox neighborhoods in New York,

The gates are pretty high.

Like you don't really get much of that culture in.

Whereas where I grew up, like I definitely, you know, by the time I got to high school, I would go out to like punk shows on Hollywood Boulevard.

I would go to raves out in like the deserts around L.A.

I would go surfing on weekends with my friends.

And so none of that would happen if I grew up in Williamsburg.

You know, when it comes to Orthodox Judaism, maybe religion more broadly, there's sort of two pieces.

There's like the letter of the law, like what are you allowed to do?

What are you not allowed to do?

And then there's like the cultural pieces of like what is culturally acceptable and culturally layered on top of it.

And so there's

There's nothing wrong with going to a punk show according to the laws of Orthodox Judaism, but it may be frowned upon from like a culturally conservative perspective.

And I think in LA, you know, there's still a lot of that judginess, but there's a little bit more of an acceptance of, okay, like you can sort of play in both worlds.