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Vince Chan

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Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

We've lost the art of thinking, writing, and real human connection. Lisa, I know this is something you think about a lot, Looking ahead, how do you see this playing out? How can we rediscover and nurture our human skills in a world increasingly dominated by AI? What needs to change?

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

We've lost the art of thinking, writing, and real human connection. Lisa, I know this is something you think about a lot, Looking ahead, how do you see this playing out? How can we rediscover and nurture our human skills in a world increasingly dominated by AI? What needs to change?

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

As you were sharing, I started thinking about how school used to be, how we had all these different subjects, mathematics, English, French, history, biology, chemistry. Some of us love math, some hate it. Some are naturally good at languages or humanities. Now, imagine if schools today didn't just teach subjects, but instead focused on specific human skills.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

As you were sharing, I started thinking about how school used to be, how we had all these different subjects, mathematics, English, French, history, biology, chemistry. Some of us love math, some hate it. Some are naturally good at languages or humanities. Now, imagine if schools today didn't just teach subjects, but instead focused on specific human skills.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

Curiosity, critical thinking, problem solving, empathy, adaptability. Just like some kids are naturally drawn to math or writing. Maybe some will be more inclined towards curiosity as a skill, while others might naturally excel in problem solving.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

Curiosity, critical thinking, problem solving, empathy, adaptability. Just like some kids are naturally drawn to math or writing. Maybe some will be more inclined towards curiosity as a skill, while others might naturally excel in problem solving.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

If we started recognizing human skills as areas of talent, just like academic subjects, it could completely reshape the way we educate not just kids, but also working professionals. Maybe that's part of the future of learning. a shift from memorizing subjects to mastering the skills that truly set us apart in an AI-centric world.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

If we started recognizing human skills as areas of talent, just like academic subjects, it could completely reshape the way we educate not just kids, but also working professionals. Maybe that's part of the future of learning. a shift from memorizing subjects to mastering the skills that truly set us apart in an AI-centric world.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

Now for my last question, this one is a bit personal. You talk about change, the future and human skills, but you're also a mother. Your daughter is still a student studying at one of the top schools in the States. How have you personally nurtured her to be a future-ready human? And if she ever came to you and said, Mom, I need to figure out my future career direction, how would you guide her?

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

Now for my last question, this one is a bit personal. You talk about change, the future and human skills, but you're also a mother. Your daughter is still a student studying at one of the top schools in the States. How have you personally nurtured her to be a future-ready human? And if she ever came to you and said, Mom, I need to figure out my future career direction, how would you guide her?

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

Yeah, I completely relate to that. It's not just a US thing. It's universal. Back in the 80s, when I was in middle school, my father gave me a book about how getting an MBA was the golden passport to success. And back then, that was true, especially in banking and consulting. By the time I finished my MBA studies in 2002, right after 911, the economy wasn't great.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

Yeah, I completely relate to that. It's not just a US thing. It's universal. Back in the 80s, when I was in middle school, my father gave me a book about how getting an MBA was the golden passport to success. And back then, that was true, especially in banking and consulting. By the time I finished my MBA studies in 2002, right after 911, the economy wasn't great.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

But finance was still one of the best paying industries. I got into it. In terms of salary, it was good. But at some point, I felt lost. I had followed the standard playbook, but I had no real sense of who I was. I wish someone like you had spoken to me back then, given me real, genuine advice about the future.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

But finance was still one of the best paying industries. I got into it. In terms of salary, it was good. But at some point, I felt lost. I had followed the standard playbook, but I had no real sense of who I was. I wish someone like you had spoken to me back then, given me real, genuine advice about the future.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

So I'm curious, when raising your daughter, did you do anything special to make her more future-sensitive, more future-ready?

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

So I'm curious, when raising your daughter, did you do anything special to make her more future-sensitive, more future-ready?

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

The last question I asked about your parenting is because I really believe in walking the walk, talking the talk when it comes to leadership. And you, as both a leader and a parent, I think role modeling is everything. Maybe in a future episode, we can focus more on future humans. How we raise the next generation to be ready for what's ahead. A lot of listeners might be parents themselves.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

The last question I asked about your parenting is because I really believe in walking the walk, talking the talk when it comes to leadership. And you, as both a leader and a parent, I think role modeling is everything. Maybe in a future episode, we can focus more on future humans. How we raise the next generation to be ready for what's ahead. A lot of listeners might be parents themselves.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

They may not have your exact background and resources, but they are shaping the future in their own families. My parents never had the chance to learn from people like you. But today's parents do, and that's powerful.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

They may not have your exact background and resources, but they are shaping the future in their own families. My parents never had the chance to learn from people like you. But today's parents do, and that's powerful.