Vince Chan
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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I see you as the chief change officer behind all the change leaders you work with, guiding them to maximize the success of the initiatives. But as the founder and CEO of your own firm, you're also managing change within your own organization, including hiring, scaling, and evolving as you grow. So how do you approach change management within your own firm?
Do you bring in independent consultants to guide the process? Or do you rely on your own expertise to lead and execute these changes? What does change look like from your side of the table?
I call this walk the walk and talk the talk leadership. I would like to bring you back and talk more about change, but next time it will be on video. We're launching the YouTube channel very soon. So after the holidays, please come back, Nelly. Thank you very much for your time today.
Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today, I'm joined by Nellie Wotoff, someone I'd like to call the chief change officer behind Change Leaders.
Originally from Europe, she spent years in Asia, especially in Singapore, working across cultures. Now based in US, Nellie is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a tech-driven platform helping organizations navigate change more effectively. This is part one of a two-part series.
In these episodes, we'll dive into navigating cultural differences across three regions, why most change initiatives fail, and how to set up for success. If you've ever struggled with change, whether in your career, company, or life, this series is for you. Let's get started. Nellie, good afternoon to you in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. Welcome to Chief Change Officer.
Thank you, I'm so happy to be here. Nelly and I share at least one thing in common, which is extensive experience in Asia. Originally from Europe, Nelly spent a significant amount of time in Singapore and still maintains strong connections with clients and contacts in Asia. Now, she's based in the US, bringing together a wealth of cross-cultural experiences.
Before we dive into those experiences and insights, Nellie, let's start with your story. Not the typical job interview introduction, but a deeper dive into your journey. Where are you originally from? What brought you to Asia? How did those experiences lead you to move to L.A. and take on the work you are doing now? Let's begin there.
Two weeks ago, I interviewed a guest who described himself as a change addict. That phrase stuck with me. When you mentioned being a risk taker and not following a standard playbook, choosing to carve your own path, it reminded me of that mindset. It also explains why you do what you do now, which we'll dive into shortly. You and I are not the type to settle in a comfort zone
When everything seems calm and everyone around us says, why change? Everything is just fine. For us, it's not about comfort. It's about growth, progress, and doing things differently, better. While others may not fully understand, we see opportunities where they don't. and we create our own paths forward. That's why I come up with the term called growth progressive.
I call my show a space designed for growth progressives. People stay in their comfort zones, still seek growth, but they follow a traditional framework, extended playbook. Those I call growth conventionalists. But people like us, we push boundaries, we explore the uncharted, take risks, and figure things out as we go. That's what being a growth progressive is all about.
Would you see yourself that way?
You describe yourselves as adventurous, rustic, gross, progressive, someone who doesn't follow the standard playbook. Before starting Tiger Hall, you worked in headhunting. Can you tell us more about your experience in that world?
Were there any pivotal moments, maybe a major change, a bold transition, or a risk you took that shaped your journey or influenced your decision to build something entirely your own?
You described the fast-paced nature of your work, those 7 to 11 days filled with constant demands. I can feel the drive and dedication you had during that time. I can relate to that, having been in a similar environment during my corporate days at Standard & Poor's. Back then, covering the Asia region meant working 9 to 12. Not kidding, even on weekends.
But like you, I found this fast-paced and creative problem-solving extremely fulfilling. It wasn't just hard work. It was engaging and rewarding. But with that level of immersion comes stress. sometimes the kind that can weigh you down. In today's world, resilience has become almost a necessity. In your case, how did you build resilience to stay focused and keep moving forward?
Whether in your personal or professional life, What approach or practice help you push through tough times and maintain balance?
I like what you said about identity. It's so true. Many of us, whether we realize it or not, we are in some kind of identity crisis. You see it all the time. People giving themselves titles like CEO when they've just started a venture. or crafting these polished personal brands on social media that don't always align with their real actions or true values.
It's like they're trying to create this facade, but underneath, they've lost the direction. They are part of a herd mentality. whether it's in their career or even in knowing who they are. And that ties directly to resilience, like you said. It's about holding on to something real, something solid. It's not just about revenue, growth percentages, and flashy titles.
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