Zvika Krieger

Yeah. And like maybe partially attributed to my upbringing in L.A. where there wasn't this like strict binary of like either you're this way or you're this way. But it was the sense of like if these practices are meaningful, you can keep doing them and do other things that don't conflict with those practices. Right. But have you ever heard of the concept called the second naivete?

Yeah. And like maybe partially attributed to my upbringing in L.A. where there wasn't this like strict binary of like either you're this way or you're this way. But it was the sense of like if these practices are meaningful, you can keep doing them and do other things that don't conflict with those practices. Right. But have you ever heard of the concept called the second naivete?

Yeah. And like maybe partially attributed to my upbringing in L.A. where there wasn't this like strict binary of like either you're this way or you're this way. But it was the sense of like if these practices are meaningful, you can keep doing them and do other things that don't conflict with those practices. Right. But have you ever heard of the concept called the second naivete?

It's this like French philosopher, Paul Ricoeur. He kind of like traces a version of that arc that you just traced, but it's got a slightly different twist to it, which is like the first naivete is like you grow up and you learn about the God in the sky and you pray to this God to do good things for you, da-da-da-da-da-da.

It's this like French philosopher, Paul Ricoeur. He kind of like traces a version of that arc that you just traced, but it's got a slightly different twist to it, which is like the first naivete is like you grow up and you learn about the God in the sky and you pray to this God to do good things for you, da-da-da-da-da-da.

It's this like French philosopher, Paul Ricoeur. He kind of like traces a version of that arc that you just traced, but it's got a slightly different twist to it, which is like the first naivete is like you grow up and you learn about the God in the sky and you pray to this God to do good things for you, da-da-da-da-da-da.

And then there's, like, a second phase, which is, like, it all comes crashing down. And you have this realization or you learn, like, holy shit, like, all this is bullshit. Religion is constructed by all these people with nefarious agendas. Like, screw this. Then he has this thing called the second naivete, which is, like, okay, like... Yes, religion is invented by people.

And then there's, like, a second phase, which is, like, it all comes crashing down. And you have this realization or you learn, like, holy shit, like, all this is bullshit. Religion is constructed by all these people with nefarious agendas. Like, screw this. Then he has this thing called the second naivete, which is, like, okay, like... Yes, religion is invented by people.

And then there's, like, a second phase, which is, like, it all comes crashing down. And you have this realization or you learn, like, holy shit, like, all this is bullshit. Religion is constructed by all these people with nefarious agendas. Like, screw this. Then he has this thing called the second naivete, which is, like, okay, like... Yes, religion is invented by people.

Yes, there is no old man in the sky. And there's still value in a lot of this stuff, right? And I'm going to choose to believe a lot of this stuff in a way that is more suited to a grown-up sensibility of what exists and what doesn't exist. But I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's a way that you can opt in to that world that sort of meets you post-crash.

Yes, there is no old man in the sky. And there's still value in a lot of this stuff, right? And I'm going to choose to believe a lot of this stuff in a way that is more suited to a grown-up sensibility of what exists and what doesn't exist. But I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's a way that you can opt in to that world that sort of meets you post-crash.

Yes, there is no old man in the sky. And there's still value in a lot of this stuff, right? And I'm going to choose to believe a lot of this stuff in a way that is more suited to a grown-up sensibility of what exists and what doesn't exist. But I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's a way that you can opt in to that world that sort of meets you post-crash.

Totally. And like a lot of my 20s and 30s was about like updating my conception of God and then looking back on my life and the practices and the way I kind of live my life as an observant Jew and saying, okay, like which of these still resonate, which of these don't resonate and like what aligns with this conception. And actually like a lot of it does align.

Totally. And like a lot of my 20s and 30s was about like updating my conception of God and then looking back on my life and the practices and the way I kind of live my life as an observant Jew and saying, okay, like which of these still resonate, which of these don't resonate and like what aligns with this conception. And actually like a lot of it does align.

Totally. And like a lot of my 20s and 30s was about like updating my conception of God and then looking back on my life and the practices and the way I kind of live my life as an observant Jew and saying, okay, like which of these still resonate, which of these don't resonate and like what aligns with this conception. And actually like a lot of it does align.

Totally. Yeah. There's a famous rabbi who said like, the people I socialize with, I can't pray with and the people I pray with, I can't socialize with.

Totally. Yeah. There's a famous rabbi who said like, the people I socialize with, I can't pray with and the people I pray with, I can't socialize with.

Totally. Yeah. There's a famous rabbi who said like, the people I socialize with, I can't pray with and the people I pray with, I can't socialize with.

Yeah. And I think that I definitely relate to that. And I think that that's like to the extent that I quote unquote left orthodoxy, though I like to pretend that I haven't really left orthodoxy. But to the extent that I've left, it was actually more for like social reasons and that like the people in those communities tended to be more socially conservative and that's politically conservative.

Yeah. And I think that I definitely relate to that. And I think that that's like to the extent that I quote unquote left orthodoxy, though I like to pretend that I haven't really left orthodoxy. But to the extent that I've left, it was actually more for like social reasons and that like the people in those communities tended to be more socially conservative and that's politically conservative.