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Ángel F. Adames-Corraliza

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Maria was a life-changing experience.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Like, I was not able to contact my family for weeks.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It was kind of like a grieving moment.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Like, nobody in my immediate family passed away from Maria, but it almost, it was like something died.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

I was already like a dedicated tropical meteorologist trying to understand how humidity, circulation and rain interacted with one another.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

But I felt like this bigger desire to really want to understand what are the big driving forces?

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

What is it that causes?

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tropical weather to tick.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And so I felt this drive to serve my community even more.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Like I wanted to be able to go back to Puerto Rico or go to any other community that's in the tropics and be able to tell people like these are the things that matter.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

These are the things that drive weather and climate in the tropics.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

These are the things that you need to pay attention to.

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And then my brain just completely melted and I don't remember anything else from the call, to be honest.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

You know, coming from Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico is a small island.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

We do have our contributions to society.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

We're kind of known for the arts and for like music, for example.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

But we don't often get recognition for science, especially in my discipline.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

You know, like as a community, we've been invisible.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And to be able to receive this award where somebody comes out to you, in this case, the MacArthur Foundation, and they tell me, like, no, we see you, you know, and we see what you're doing and we think that what you do matters.

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It's not just what you're doing, but what your community is doing.

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To me, this is everything.

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Yes.

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Yeah, it's most of Australia, like a good chunk of Australia, New Zealand, this very southern part of Africa and kind of like the southern half of South America.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And almost the entirety of like first world countries in the northern hemisphere, which is something that is relevant to the research that I do.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Okay.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

The majority of the developed countries, they're used to the stuff that I see here in Madison, Wisconsin, which is like it gets really cold some days, some days it gets really warm.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Weather is very, very changing.

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Temperatures change very dramatically.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It can be really, really, really dry.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Got it.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So there was a lot of common knowledge.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

For example, the indigenous populations of the Caribbean knew about hurricanes.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So the Taino, for example, they had the Semí, which is kind of like their, you know, entity of destruction is Huracán.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

That's where the hurricane name comes from.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And so there was knowledge of these things, right?

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And then same with the Peruvian natives.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

They knew about El Niño.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So local communities did know about the major phenomenon, maybe not necessarily what drove them, but they knew about their existence.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

But of course, the mid-latitude countries that were actually pushing the research, they didn't really know much, right?

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And so there was knowledge in India, China and other communities as well, but there wasn't that much conversation.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So it's actually, I don't think it's incorrect to say that people in North America and Europe knew nothing about the tropics until World War II.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So World War II came, and what happened was that the U.S.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

and the allied countries got into war with Japan.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And Japan had taken over a lot of islands in the Pacific.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So a lot of the war actually happened in the tropical Pacific.

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And early combat was actually kind of catastrophic.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Because typhoons, actually, a typhoon came and sank a Navy ship, for example.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Before all this happened, people had just assumed that the tropics were kind of like this paradise.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It was just sunny and beautiful all the time.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And then maybe every now and then you'd get a hurricane.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

But then people started realizing, oh, oh, dang, weather in the tropics does actually change at a substantial scale.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And this is all summarized in the first tropical meteorology book ever written by somebody in the northern latitudes by Herbert Real in the 1950s.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So his first paragraph of the book is like, oh, we didn't know that this was serious.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And then we realized that it was serious in World War II.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It's super different.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So the first thing that's like there are some really guiding principles for the mid-latitude dynamics that we teach in the classroom.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

For example, we have this thing called.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

this very important balance that's called geostrophic balance.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So if you look at the major weather patterns, you have the jet stream, right?

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Yeah, yeah.

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So commercial aircraft take advantage of the jet stream, and then they fly along the jet stream to make the flight faster, but then they have to fly against it on the way back, so it is actually slower.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Right.

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So we know that these currents exist, and they're actually in a very, very elegant balance.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

The winds want to accelerate to the poles, but then the Coriolis force, which is the bending effect that you get from the planet being in rotation, it bends it the other way.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So it causes all the combination of these forces creates the jet stream.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And the jet stream goes from west to east.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And in this jet, you get these waves.

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So you get these undulations.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And these undulations are the troughs and ridges that create our day-to-day patterns.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So that's why temperature fluctuates a lot.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

The colder side of the jet is really cold.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

The equator one is warm.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And the jet is waving all the time.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So you just get days that are warm and days that are cold in alternation.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Right, right.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It is not like this at all.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So the tropics are pretty warm year-round.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So you don't really see that temperature variability that you see here in the mid-latitude.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So things like cold fronts and stuff, that barely exists.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

In the tropics, you don't really worry about that.

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But yet you still get these periods where it's really, really rainy and alternating with dry periods.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So instead of thinking about temperature variability, it gets really cold or it gets really hot.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

In the tropics, it actually gets really humid or it's really dry.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

That's really kind of the big thing that drives weather patterns.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It is about the moisture, yeah.

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There's other things that matter too, right?

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Because it's always more complicated than that.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

But if I go to a classroom and I teach people what are the things about the tropics that make the tropics different, that's going to be one of the things that I'm going to mention.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Probably the thing that I'm going to mention.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So...

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

I don't think we still have a comprehensive theory of the tropics.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

At least when you compare it to the mid-latitudes where we have multiple textbooks, we have mature theory, the vast majority of weather forecasting models were initially built to tackle mid-latitude weather, not tropical weather.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And as a result, forecasting weather and climate events in the tropics is more daunting to the detrimental to people that live there, right?

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So in Puerto Rico, we cannot evacuate from hurricanes because we're on an island.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Because sometimes you do get extreme events like floods, heat waves, and things that actually are very costly, not just in infrastructure, but in life.

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and they're not very well predicted, you know?

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And so that's the big thing, right?

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Like ultimately it is a problem of human safety and wellbeing that we cannot forecast things in the tropics as well as we do in the mid latitudes.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

Yep.

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Right.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So the MJO is actually the most important tropical phenomenon that you don't know, that people don't know about.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So we had to kind of weather the hurricane.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

That's the way that I would like people to think about.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It's comparably as important as El Nino.

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Okay.

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And it has not just massive impacts in the tropics, but it has impacts throughout the globe.

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It actually modulates weather in the Mid-Atlantis.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

For example, atmospheric rivers that cause flooding in California are modulated by the MJO.

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So it's a global phenomenon.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

It's rooted in the tropics.

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It starts in the Indian Ocean.

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It is about the size of Russia.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So we were up all night and I just remember the winds roaring and the house shaking.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

So it's huge.

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And it propagates eastward pretty slowly.

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And in that movement, it modulates hurricane activity.

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So when the MJO is active, hurricane activity increases and so forth.

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When I started studying it, I started kind of learning about the importance of water vapor in tropical rainfall.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And then after that, I started realizing how all these insights

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about the MGO translate to all sorts of other tropical phenomenon.

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For example, when it's humid, it starts to rain, but then all that rain actually changes the wind patterns.

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And the wind patterns then change in such a way that the movement, that moisture gets moved around.

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Why The Tropics Have A Weather Forecasting Problem

And so the moisture gets moved around, and so the rain moves with the moisture.

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So all these three things get coupled together.

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My family had to put these like wooden panels to protect the windows and the doors.

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The moisture, the rains, and the winds, they couple together.

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Yeah, they play off each other.

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So they feed back on each other.

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And so that causes the MGO to move, you know, or according to

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Right.

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I would like to see a role in which when we're making climate reports and when we're making forecasts that everybody is being equally represented and that everybody's being done justice.

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And I remember like the wind just hitting those those doors.

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Because at the end of the day, everybody deserves to have the best possible weather forecast.

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Everybody deserves to know...

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to the best degree possible what's going to happen in the climate in their region right now.

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And right now we don't.

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We don't equally have the knowledge about climate and the atmosphere for everywhere.

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I think that speaks volumes to where we are right now and where we should be is a place where everybody knows the same amount about everywhere.

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Thank you.

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And that really left an impression on me.

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Thank you so much.

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I was 10, so I was a child.

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I couldn't believe that something so powerful and destructive was in nature's arsenal.