
2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer
Arnold Schwarzenegger PUMPS UP The Bears | 2 Bears, 1 Cave
Mon, 23 Dec 2024
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Chapter 1: What mental strategies did Arnold use for powerlifting?
So you have to go because you have to let the mind know not to go and have fear of the 315. So what I usually did was when I was training for powerlifting was I was, let's say, my max was at a competition 515. And so I tried to do as many times as I can, 500. So I did 500 in the gym, then I waited a little bit, and then I did again one rep at 500. Same day?
Then I waited, yeah, you know, just kind of like... Like waiting around, yeah. Five minutes later, so schmoozing a little bit, and then, okay, then the guys were coming in and said, okay, let's do another one, let's do another one. And then we were just going, doing it again. And so he gets us mentally used to the 500. So in a way, you feel like this is all happening subconsciously.
It's not like consciously. Consciously, too. But I mean, the important thing is that you lie down eventually on the bench and you say, I have that nailed. Yeah. Yeah. Because as soon as you say, let me try. It's not quite cutting it to try. I mean, trying is good, but I mean, you got to do it. Because then you feel the fear if you're not ready for it.
The fear factor, that's why I say psychologically, the important thing is to just do it, you know, just for your head, to do it as many times as possible. So you go, we went once or twice a week, we went to the ultimate weight, and then we just stayed on that, whatever that weight is that day, and then just stay on and do the heavy weight, the heavy weight, the heavy weight, just one rep.
And when we normally train, you go up to three reps. So you go, let's say, in your case, you did three for 285. So you do then three reps and keep doing three reps and keep doing three reps. Then eventually the next week you go to just for one rep. So that's what you do. It's just kind of the mind game because our mind is really the thing that holds us back.
Sure. Your mind is fascinating.
Yeah. Well, it's fascinating, but I try to work on it all the time because I figured it out on my own. I said, look, this is like really weird because I was doing weightlifting competitions all the time as a kid because I joined a weightlifting club in Graz. So there was no bodybuilding club. So we had to weightlift.
And then after we went through the weightlifting routine and the weightlifting training, then we could go and do chin-ups or do some incline presses or do some lateral raises or biceps curls and stuff like that. But first we had to do the weightlifting. So we were competing pretty much every second weekend, going from one town to another, kind of competing against the town weightlifting club.
And so you kind of... Eventually figured out, you know, that why is it that you get to the weight and you say, oh, I'm going to do that. This is going to be great. And you pound it out. You clean it up. And you have it in your chest. And then, boom, you pound it out. And it's a winner. And then you put on five more pounds on it. And all of a sudden it doesn't work. That's what happened.
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Chapter 2: How did Arnold develop his bodybuilding techniques?
buying office buildings, old office buildings on Main Street here in Santa Monica that were decrepit and that had artists in it. And we then turned them into kind of like offices for banks and for real estate offices and stuff like that. We did the space and started making a lot of money on that. That's incredible.
Yeah. Um, I got to ask you this cause I was so fascinated by this when I was watching your doc series, the on, on Netflix is that, you know, growing up, like we all were, we, we knew about your bodybuilding, but we all became like, it's obviously super fans from the movies and there's, you know, it's no social media at the time. You don't have access to information. So you see the story.
And one of the things I was most fascinated by was the rivalry with Stallone because when you're a kid, um, You kind of go, you imagine, I wonder what there was. I wonder if they like each other. And seeing this was the first time you guys talked about, verifiably, that you guys had a real rivalry. And how did it originate?
What made you guys, was it just the fact that you were competing in the box office, or was it deeper than that?
No, I think that it was kind of, well, the rivalry was there. But it was, I think the whole thing was my fault. Really? Well, because I remember that I went and was really stupid. And a journalist asked me some questions about Sly.
off the record and i did not know that she had the tape recorder on the side of her purse running and then uh printed the whole thing and um so it was not meant to be like that right then of course he was very angry and that kind of flared up the competition And so at that point, you know, the trust was gone and okay, let's make this an open kind of a thing and let's go all out.
And so for years we went just kind of like out, trying to outdo each other with movies. But I think, as he said in an interview, and I totally agree with him, that it was actually healthy, even though we went a little bit beyond what we should have done. But it was healthy because it did motivate me, and I felt kind of like, oh, yeah, I mean, the guy is really ripped. You know, in Rambo, too.
I mean, Ferdinand Stallone kind of redefined definition. Because he was so disciplined with his diet. And so that motivated me the minute I did my next movie, Commando, that, okay, I have to go and look like that, too. And so, you know... I mean, I always had like a body fat of around, you know, eight, nine percent. But I went down to seven percent. I'm sure that he was down to five percent.
Really? I mean, I don't really know exactly. You guys were really pushing each other. So it was like I got pushed by him and then I got really cut. And people then said after, wow, you're really cut. And then that pushed him for his next movie when he did Rocky. Oh, look at how much bigger Arnold was than me. I got to get bigger. And so we kind of...
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Chapter 3: What was the rivalry between Arnold and Stallone?
Chapter 4: How did Arnold's immigrant experience shape his success?
It's all about, you know, that people should look forward to the struggle because the struggle makes you tougher. And so don't shy away from that. It's part of life and it will make you grow. It's that simple. It makes the muscle grow, the more you have resistance and it will make your mind grow and the psychologically will become stronger the more you struggle.
What exercise? I'm going to be all exercise questions. You look great, by the way. You look fantastic.
Well, thank you.
Thank you. Because I think you've always been the walking advocate for health and fitness for years and years. But I think one of the things is as people age, so many people stay away from training. You just see it all the time. But you're somebody who obviously you're the standard for lifting, but you still train. And it's something where I feel like
Somebody who is getting into their 50s or 60s and 70s. It's like you keep training and you look great, man.
But I cannot even take credit for it. Because people always say, you're so disciplined. I have no discipline. It's just who you are. I'm addicted. Oh, you're addicted. It's an addiction. It's kind of like I cannot even imagine myself. the mornings without riding down to the gym with the bike and then working out.
If I don't have it, like sometimes it doesn't work out because there's a morning schedule right away or something like that, then I miss it all day and I'm kind of lost in the way. So it's an addiction. So I think that for my entire life, The 60 years that I've been working out now, it's all because it's an addiction. It's kind of like, I have to. I have to go to the gym in order to feel good.
Because I always tell people, the difference is when I come down with my bike, it's like going through a black and white movie. Then as soon as I work out and I ride back my bike to the hotel and I have some breakfast, it becomes a colorful movie. It becomes colored. Everything is more beautiful. Everything is brighter. I look at life differently. Everything is positive and everything like this.
So it's just... That the workout and having done something for yourself and having pumped up and having struggled a little bit, it makes you feel good for the rest of the day.
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Chapter 5: What key exercises did Arnold popularize?
Chapter 6: How does Arnold view the importance of struggle in life?
Chapter 7: What insights does Arnold have on positive thinking?
And then so, but we did not know the idea if this meant also Milton Berle. So sure enough, Milton Berle came also. And he did a little stand-up routine. I remember it so well because I was appalled. Because you don't know, if you don't know really humor and comedy, what are the rules and all that stuff, I had no idea. I was sitting there and he says, oh, it's so great to have
Ruth, look at my beautiful wife here. Last time I saw lips like that, it had a hook through it. I mean, I said, oh my God. Oh my God. Did he just say this about his wife? And she just casually looked over to Maria and she says, oh, I hear this shit every day. I said, Jesus. I mean, it was like the beating, it was like unbelievable. He said, look at Schwarzenegger.
He has bigger tits than his girlfriend. Yeah. And all this kind of stuff. It was like relentless, this stuff, right? And so anyway, so Milton and I became very good friends. And he says, you know something, let me tell you something. He says, you're a great actor. He says, but I want to teach you about comedy. And because... As you grow in your profession, you will be asked to speak.
And there's no speech without starting out with a joke. You got to be ready for it no matter what the occasion is. And so he was kind of like teaching me all of this stuff. And I said, I didn't quite... get it yet, what he was talking about.
But then as time went on, he was telling me, I said, look, he says, you go, he says, you ask me to go and give you something about the speech that you're doing in Vegas, you're getting an award. And he says, so here it is. And he was telling me this thing. He says, well, that was really fantastic. Thank you so much.
I said, you know, being a bodybuilder and having been around the movie business, you get, of course, a lot of trophies and a lot of medals and awards. But this one is without any doubt the most important. And so then he says, okay, say the joke. And then I will be going and he says, okay, and this is the most recent. He says, fucking stupid Nazi. What the fuck is the matter with you?
What did I say? Did you see my paws? I say, you have to look at it and you say, you know, I've gotten a lot of medals. But this, without any doubt, is the most recent. You have to kind of get emotional. Yeah. And give that moment. And people go, oh, isn't that nice? And then you say, recent. I said, and then you throw out the recent. I said, you don't go and say recent right away.
You have to have the timing. I said, don't be stupid now. Listen to me carefully. And so he was always kind of like screaming at everything like this. So this is how I kind of like learned from him. How to do comedy and how important it is to do the timing of that stuff. They may call you down to give a speech at some medical convention. And I said, no, I would never do that.
He said, I know nothing about that. And he says, no, no, no, no, no, no. He says, what's wrong with just starting out and just saying? He says, hey, what a coincidence it is. I had a physical this morning. I went in there. The doctor says, okay, take off your clothes. And I said, okay, where should I put it? And he says, right there in the corner where mine is.
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Chapter 8: How does Arnold maintain his fitness at an older age?
Yeah, yeah. No, I can understand it. Because the funny thing about it is that I think that the better off we are and the more fun you have in life, the more pissed off you get that eventually this is going to be taken from you. Yeah. Yeah. And, of course, we don't know that it has been taken from you because it's over. But, I mean, that also pisses me off. Yeah.
Since everything pisses me off about the whole thing.
Yeah.
I mean, there's just nothing good about it.
I feel like I'm the luckiest guy in the world and that death will be the one unlucky thing.
I know, I know, it sucks. It's like, who was asking me to catch all about, what did I think about? Howard Stern. Howard Stern. Howard Stern. He asked me, he said, governor. I suppose being governor makes you an expert in death. He says, tell me. What happens to us when we die? I said, the only thing I can come up with is we go six feet out and we rot.
And he said, oh, my God, what a welcome to Los Angeles. He was doing his show out there in L.A.
I said, it's the only thing that I know. Well, I mean, I will simply say – Your docuseries on Netflix is outrageous. It's so good. It is really great. Your book is phenomenal. I can't reiterate this enough, especially if you have a young boy. And this is coming from my perspective. If you have an 18-year-old boy, you buy him this book. It is so good.
And if you are looking to get in shape this New Year's coming up, get The Pump. The Pump is awesome. And The Schmooze is you. You are writing The Schmooze. It is very personal. And the comment section is wildly positive. It is just people pumping each other up.
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