In 1933, The Pittsburgh Courier published an editorial entitled 'Hitler Learns from America'. So how and why was fascism on the rise in the United States from the Great Depression to the Second World War?In this episode, Don speaks with Rachel Maddow, host of 'The Rachel Maddow Show' on MSNBC. Together, they explore the influence of propaganda, key figures of American Fascism, and the Great Sedition Trial of 1944.Rachel's latest book is 'Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism.'Produced by Sophie Gee. Edited by Aidan Lonergan. Senior Producer was Charlotte Long.Enjoy unlimited access to award-winning original documentaries that are released weekly and AD-FREE podcasts. Sign here for up to 50% for 3 months using code AMERICANHISTORYYou can take part in our listener survey here.American History Hit is a History Hit podcast.
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Just a note from me. Before we get started, this conversation has been recorded before our recent presidential election. Here in Detroit, row upon row of shiny black vehicles exit the assembly line in steady succession. Simple, affordable, and durable, with a lightweight body and uniform shape.
In 1908, the Ford Model T, one of the first vehicles to be mass produced, comes to represent American engineering innovation, a landmark achievement and a cultural icon for the modern world. But this is not the only assembly line to be owned and operated by Henry Ford. A decade after the Model T came into being, in 1918, Ford buys his hometown newspaper, the Dearborn Independent.
Then, two years later, on May 22, 1920, he publishes a four-volume set of pamphlets and articles taken from the newspaper, entitled The International Jew, The World's Problem. The first edition flies off the presses in the hundreds of thousands. It will later be translated into 16 languages. It blames the Jewish population for pretty much all of the world's problems.
Labor unrest, Bolshevism, financial strife, and war. Ford distributes half a million copies to his network of dealerships and subscribers, spreading anti-Semitic hatred across the country, a message reflected and admired by the burgeoning National Socialist Movement in Germany, a movement which it is rumored Ford also bankrolls.
This is not the start or the end of a deep relationship between the Nazi Party and a willing swath of the American public. Don Wildman But it's her 16-year-long running eponymous program on MSNBC, The Rachel Maddow Show, that has made her a household name. And today we get to discuss her most recent book, Prequel, An American Fight Against Fascism. Welcome, Rachel Maddow, to American History Hit.
It is a delight to have you here.
Don, it is such an honor. I am a fan of yours, and I am a devoted listener, and I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you.
Well, let's conclude the interview with that, please. Listen, prequel, a great book. I listened to it in one long drive. Oh, great. Wow. To your voice telling me the whole story. It tracks the extraordinary rise of American fascism out of the Great Depression up to World War II. We should take a moment here for a definition.
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