As someone who experienced the good, the bad, and the ugly side of the music industry, Aubrey shares her thoughts on Cassie's cross examination. From the text messages, to the testimony, Aubrey offers Amy and T.J. some eye-opening courtroom context.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial.
Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day. I'm Amy Robach alongside my partner TJ Holmes and we have Aubrey with us to talk about what's going on with the Sean Diddy Combs trial and Aubrey certainly has perspective like no one else.
Absolutely. But we're going to get into some of the details from, of course, the star witness, Cassie Ventura. But can you just give me your initial impression? Because so many of us have heard this testimony and your jaws are dropped. But give me your impression of what we've heard so far and how she's doing. We'll get into some details, but just initial impression of how she's done.
Initial impression from what I'm able to read in the transcripts and from people that I have giving me information in court is it feels very honest. It feels very open, vulnerable, horrific. Sometimes I hear her discuss things that she did then and how now she would never, she understands it differently.
And that makes me feel like so happy for her that she's come, you know, because I don't know her as a mom. So like to understand that she made that evolution and went to the other side of viewing all of it made me feel like really proud of her. It's horrific that... It's horrific that she had to go through so much. You know, there was one part of the testimony that was so telling.
It's not even anything anyone's really touching on, but there was a transcript that I read that went something like, you know, I don't really, or can we talk? I wanted to bring something up to you. And he's like, oh, okay, yeah, you don't want to do the freak-offs now. You're so predictable. That's a very, it's a statement that groomers make.
If you've ever dated anyone that doesn't really love you and is like abusive usually and pushing you into things, it doesn't even have to be sexual. It could be anything they want you to do. It's like almost training a child, right? Like, oh, you want to bring up this? You're so predictable. Like, you're just like the rest of them.
And then you get that feeling as a woman to be like, no, wait, I'm not. I'm not. I promise. You then talk yourself back into an idea. Same way when she was brutally abused in that hallway, him writing her, I'm about to get arrested. The police are here. They've already testified to the fact that there was no arrest and there was no police arresting him. That was to get her to come back.
It's called control. It's control, coercion. It's grooming. It's all pieces of many things that make me really understand how much manipulation was involved in getting her to... activate the emotions that he wanted her to project.
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