How The Coddled Generation Is Being Set Up To Fail w/ Courtney & Ted Balaker (Producers of “The Coddling Of The American Mind”) + Lionel – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 430

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1253.253 - 1267.98 Ted Balaker

And not only does it make you miserable, but it actually contributes directly to what we're seeing sky-high and record levels of anxiety and depression among Gen Z because of all this overprotection, because of all the coddling.

1268.4 - 1282.804 Ted Balaker

So the cruel and great irony is that all these parents, administrators, and other coddlers think that they're helping their kids, they're keeping them safe, but then when they turn 20 and they can't deal with the world and they're scared of everything and they have anxiety and depression,

1283.784 - 1306.88 Ted Balaker

And it's kind of too late at that point to turn back the clock and to realize that, unfortunately, they all made a big mistake by overprotecting kids rather than letting them scrape their knee, letting them fall down, and being the snowplow parents to make sure everything is pristine for little Johnny and Susie as they walk through life.

1307.5 - 1323.556 Ted Balaker

It seems in the moment like the right thing to do because we as parents are scared. And like Courtney, I feel that. as well. But we have to kind of get over it because we can't just be so focused on the here and now. We have to think about what our kids are going to be like 10, 20 years down the line.

1324.858 - 1348.663 Drew

Yeah, you got to remember, our fears also need to be put to the test of exposure, right? We need to regulate our fears by exposing ourselves through exposing our kids. And guess what? We will regulate. We'll be able to better tolerate it. It's natural that given the upbringing that we all had, we'd have a little anxiety about parenting. But we need exposure also by allowing our kids to fail.

1661.212 - 1667.399 Drew

Oh, I like that. That's a good pitch just by itself. Where do people go to see it?

1669.189 - 1696.321 Ted Balaker

Everything is at thecoddlingmovie.com so you can find out all the information there. You can also just check it out at Prime Video, Apple TV, Google Play. You can watch it on Substack and also subscribe and join us in our ongoing journey with The Coddling Movie. So there are a bunch of ways to see it. But again, thecoddlingmovie.com is your one-stop shop for all things Coddling Movie.

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I asked you about a couple of actors and their response, but how's the general response? What kind of feedback are you getting? What do people say? Both positive and negative. I'm just interested in how would somebody be critical of something like this? But tell me about it.

1712.99 - 1739.429 Ted Balaker

Yeah, we've had some of it. I'm happy to report that overwhelmingly it's been positive. Steven Pinker at Harvard invited us there. He loves the movie. We've had Michael Smirconish of CNN loves the movie. And really the most heartening responses come from Jennifer. Gen Zers and their parents, they tell us things like, I'm stronger than I was told. We need to tell kids more stuff like this.

1739.93 - 1769.05 Ted Balaker

And we shouldn't be afraid of free speech. So we're now embarked on this global tour where we've been in five countries, more than 50 countries. And the students, by and large, are really responding positively. The administrators and professors, and sometimes when you get the DEI professionals there, the people who tend to get upset with us at Q&A. We had our posters torn down at Cornell.

2040.787 - 2052.173 Ted Balaker

We had one young man at UCLA who went to a DEI training in the morning and then in the evening went to a coddling screening. And we'd love to replicate that throughout the land.

2053.914 - 2056.676 Drew

Or maybe at high schools even. And Courtney, your thoughts?

2058.533 - 2085.399 Courtney Balaker

Yeah, I think that the more parents who have kids in the Gen Z generation can watch it, that's been another wonderful response we've gotten from that demographic. Parents are like, thank you for making it. Thank you for laying this out. We raised our child with a certain set of values. They went to college four years later. They came back a different person. And that's really frustrating. And...

2087.279 - 2102.006 Courtney Balaker

Yeah, we would encourage parents, if you're confused or dealing with questions like this, watch the movie, reach out to us. We love to keep the conversation going and we're really grateful to you for having us on so that we could do that.

2103.783 - 2119.566 Drew

Our pleasure. It's thecoddlingmovie.com, thecoddlingmovie.substack.com. Ted is at Ted Balaker, B-A-L-A-K-E-R. In terms of reaching out, do they reach out at the website or DM you, or where do you want people to go?

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2933.438 - 2954.399 Lionel

Women who claim that they have lost rights, they have no rights under President Trump. And for some reason, they believe that Roe against Wade and everything. So I said, oh, this is interesting. Oh, so you know about Roe, right? He goes, yes. Oh, I see. So what about substantive due process did you find not problematic? It's like me arguing Ivermectin with you.

2955.219 - 2974.788 Lionel

But they have this idea that, well, no, no, somehow that means something. I said, well, do you know the history behind? Do you know what privacy is? And how that came from Griswold in 1965 and how it basically was made up. And they'll look at you. And you know what? Nothing. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what you say. None of it matters.

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Well, because these are really ultimately, Lionel, these are assigned opinions by a lying, inaccurate press. They are brainwashing people. That's what I'm concerned about. I want people to check themselves and really pay attention to what they're thinking and saying.

2991.953 - 3016.386 Lionel

And you know, Drew, if you don't want me calling you, Drew, because Mary Ann would make no sense. But you know, I think that what's important is that we need to bring back to our vocabulary to... We must unpack the notion of people who are retarded. And for a long time, we said, oh, that's a bad word. You know, when I say, what are you, blind? What are you, deaf?

3016.747 - 3038.459 Lionel

I'm not making fun of these people. But there are people who I think that for whatever particular reason, they're just born stupid. And I think that we have to call them out and we have to adjudicate them stupid. And we have to come up with instead of the insanity defense, stupid, because a lot of people are just stupid. Be oceans, dimwits, dullards.

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I can't say that this is necessarily the case. But really, I would.

3685.528 - 3711.269 Lionel

I would say that because. I'm Dr. Drew. I don't know what the hell this is. I've never used it. But listen, if you want to take a chance, that's selling it. But listen, aside from that, what you're doing right now is so important and so critical. Because the thing, remember what you're doing. You're their friend. It's not about what you say. They know you. And you know what else is good about you?

3711.289 - 3734.826 Lionel

Can I say something? As a professional, the balance. I'm not sure. I love the balance. You bring your crew into it, the laughing. A lot of these jerk-offs in the business don't want anybody, you know, horning in on my time. I like it. It's fun. Because the bottom line is people have to like you. And if they like you, that's the most important part.

3735.086 - 3746.577 Lionel

So many times you hear these people on TV and they're miserable. That notwithstanding, we were supposed to talk about theoretically, right? What, Ukraine? You want to talk about Ukraine? Be honest. Do you really want to? Sure.

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Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

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That's another one.

3835.193 - 3861.614 Lionel

But that's all public health bullshit. Yeah, but it's a waiting pool. It's a waiting pool. Years ago when laughing, when we were kids laughing, there was a guy named Alan Seuss. And there was a joke that I saw. It cracked me up then. I was a kid. Somebody threw a bucket of water on him. And he yelled, cramps. I've got cramps. Now, nobody, see, we get it.

3862.395 - 3887.907 Lionel

But you mentioned before somebody, your prior guest was talking about the milk cart. That was Eitan Pates. It was here in New York. And I remember there was, and I want to say this, and I think we were very lucky. And maybe everybody says that, you know, when they were kids. But I did things like, for example, one of my favorite games with my sisters and friends, we would call jump off the roof.

3888.467 - 3908.178 Lionel

We put a towel around us. We thought we were Superman. And we would jump. And one day, my father was watching. And he saw this. He saw kid after kid. And he came out and referred to me. I thought my name was God damn it until I was like 35. God damn it? What are you kids doing? And I said, we're jumping off the roof. He says, okay. And he closed the door.

3908.218 - 3930.61 Lionel

Like, I just want to know what you're doing. Not don't do it. You're going to break it up. Yeah, I just want to know what it's called. I just want to make sure I know what it's called. I had, and maybe you did too, not BB guns, but pellet guns. And it was the crossman with the pump and you get this thing. And one time, did you ever read Boys Life magazine when you were a kid?