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The Ongoing Shift to Outpatient Care: Key Trends and Investor Insights with Amber Walsh of McGuireWoods LLP 5-8-25

08 May 2025

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In this episode, Amber Walsh, Partner at McGuireWoods, joins Scott Becker to discuss the evolving move from inpatient to outpatient care. She explores its impact on real estate, private equity strategy, and the importance of understanding reimbursement trends at a granular level.

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0.149 - 20.205 Scott Becker

This is Scott Becker with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by Amber Walsh. Amber's in the Executive Committee at McGuire Woods. She works at the intersection of healthcare and private equity, and she joins us regularly to tell us what she's watching in sort of the private equity space, the healthcare space, and a lot more.

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21.085 - 28.031 Scott Becker

Amber, let me tee it up and ask you, what do you have your eyes on currently that you're watching in healthcare or private equity?

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29.252 - 58.87 Amber Walsh

Hi, Scott. Thanks for having me on. Today, I am really thinking about, and in particular, because I've read a couple of articles and working on a couple of deals that have me thinking again about the shift to outpatient care from inpatient care. And as you and I both know, this has been a trend that has gone on for decades. There is nothing new with the move to outpatient.

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59.875 - 83.339 Amber Walsh

other than I am constantly amazed that there are new factors driving the move to outpatient, and there's more and new kind of repercussions and impacts of that move to the outpatient setting. And it really plays into a lot of investors' decision-making and

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84.065 - 100.036 Amber Walsh

So while there's nothing new about that shift, it almost feels like a permanent reality that's been going on for decades that has become relatively reliable. There's just these other interesting angles to it that I'm really interested in thinking about today.

100.056 - 118.518 Scott Becker

No, thank you. And talk about some of those other areas, like the impact on health. buildings and outpatient centers and what it means for real estate technology and spreading around of services with anesthesia where there's shortages. Talk about some of the other impacts that there are.

119.88 - 154.192 Amber Walsh

Yeah, so I'll start with the building. It's really interesting. I mean, we're sitting here in the from traditional commercial real estate space for the past several years, obviously triggered a lot by COVID. And yet at the same time, while that's the macro trend across commercial real estate, you see the proliferation of medical office buildings and that construction growth continuing to go up.

155.172 - 174.258 Amber Walsh

And seeing it more, JLL reports on this, obviously one of the big brokers, reports on this frequently, and you're now even seeing off-campus medical office buildings taking over on on-campus medical office building development.

175.058 - 198.543 Amber Walsh

And in large part, it's this response to the increased opportunity for outpatient therapies, the move for so many things, not just traditional ASCs or elective surgery, but we're talking about drug administration in the form of infusion centers. We're talking about mental health, outpatient programs, all sorts of things.

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