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Before My Head Explodes with Vince Russo

Wrestling’s Next Era: WWE & ESPN’s $325M Deal, Global Moves, and AEW's Big Opportunity-Coach & Bro 9/18/2025

19 Sep 2025

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Full Podcast Summary / Notes (Timestamped) [00:00:00] - Cold Open: Wrestling Transitions & Personal Anecdotes Coach recalls memories with The Rock and his signature bald look, sharing backstage WWE stories and how even small details can stick with performers. Vince Russo and Coach set the stage for two hours of wrestling talk, promising in-depth analysis instead of simple recaps. [00:04:10] - WWE's Mega ESPN Deal Explained WWE and ESPN sign a $325 million per year agreement covering 12–14 shows. Confusion reigns over how fans will access events: most will have to pay separately, not through cable bundles (Coach predicted this on Day 1). Frustration rising among fans now expected to shell out $30 per PPV, especially with major international announcements. [00:06:50] - WWE’s Global Expansion and Fan Backlash WrestleMania announced for Saudi Arabia; 96% of polled fans are unhappy. Nick Khan reveals 50% of WWE premium events now overseas, PLE heading to Italy in 2026. Discussion on how WWE's strategy risks alienating US core fans while chasing international money. [00:08:15] - AEW’s Golden Opportunity Emerges Vince Russo lays out how Tony Khan and AEW could capitalize, including potentially running a massive stadium event stateside. Suggestions to involve other promotions and run major fan fests. [00:09:34] - Daytime WrestleManias and Business Strategy Red Flags Complaints about US shows now starting at noon, bad for engaged viewing. Coach questions if WWE leadership considers the impact on fan experience and tradition. Comparison: Other sports (NFL, NBA, MLB) go overseas but keep their home base engaged. [00:11:41] - Wrestling Pricing Crisis: Can Fans Afford It? WWE show in Indianapolis struggling to sell out despite loaded card; third-row seats at $2k each. Coach and Vince explore what’s pricing the core wrestling audience out—calls for AEW to step up as the affordable, family-friendly alternative. [00:13:52] - WWE’s $250 Million Saudi WrestleMania & Global TV Rights Breakdown Insight: Saudis demanded the actual WrestleMania, not a "fake" second version, for $250M. Context: ESPN is paying WWE $325M for the year (12–14 shows), Netflix paying $500M for 100+ events. WWE talent, despite bringing in billions, appear to be missing out on revenue sharing. [00:18:25] - Talent Resentment & Revenue Sharing in Wrestling Coach & Vince highlight growing resentment among WWE talent for being left out of mega-profits. Reference to unions and profit-sharing in other sports; WWE wrestlers often make far less without structured revenue splits. [00:19:21] - Face-Off: AEW vs WWE Pay-Per-Views This Weekend AEW's All Out in Toronto vs WWE's Wrestle Palooza on ESPN—how well have both built hype and justified their price tags? WWE’s advantage: marquee names like Cena and Lesnar, but sales aren’t where they should be. [00:22:22] - Wrestling Leadership & Why Outsiders Aren’t Invited In Coach asks why wrestling execs rarely bring in new creative minds while other sports frequently collaborate. Vince shares stories about attitude era collaboration, emphasizing "staying in your lane" and letting experts do their jobs. [00:26:56] - Tony Khan, Creative Control, and the Need for Change Discussion about Tony Khan needing to stop being “everyone’s friend” and stepping up as CEO. How empowering new voices and systems could propel AEW to exploit WWE’s home-market gaps. [00:34:28] - Pet Peeves: What Drives Us Nuts About Modern Wrestling Interactive fan segment: Coach and Vince’s biggest gripes—overuse of "schmaz finishes", lack of consistency in character storytelling, forced crowd participation, and heels acting like comedians (especially Becky Lynch). [00:46:55] - Will WWE on ESPN Be a Success? Both believe WWE & ESPN will figure out the business, but the rushed timeline poses short-term challenges for fans. Big shows aren’t selling out, but with time these conglomerates are likely to adapt and thrive. [00:51:35] - Saturday’s Doubleheader: PPV Logistics & The Football Problem ESPN plans to migrate all content to a new ESPN app; wrestling shows may compete directly with massive live college football games. Dilemma: is the wrestling audience distinct enough, or will split attention and scheduling kill early momentum? [00:55:24] - Who's Poised for a Breakout? Vince wants Drew McIntyre to get his due—but WWE booking hasn’t helped. Talk about how talent need to look the part if they want superstar pay. [00:58:12] - Final Thoughts & Merch Giveaways Vince will be in the mountains this weekend while Coach leads a premium-member live watchalong. Wheel of Doom giveaway for fans; new “I Bet Wrestling” merch announced. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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