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Mirjam van der Sluis: Amsterdam shows the way to legal AI adoption

26 Jun 2025

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In this episode of Beyond Billable, host Pim Betist sits down with Mirjam van der Sluis, Head of Staff and Innovation at the Municipality of Amsterdam and recipient of the prestigious Gouden Zandloper award. Mirjam isn’t just imagining the future of legal work—she’s building it.Together, they explore how Mirjam and her team turned a “treasure trove of information” into practical, AI-powered tools that are transforming legal services from the inside out. From launching a searchable case library using open-source LLMs to integrating data scientists directly into legal teams, Mirjam shares a blueprint for meaningful innovation in the legal sector—without the buzzwords or the fearmongering.What sets this story apart is that it didn’t come from a flashy legal tech startup, but from within government. Mirjam's approach to scenario thinking, culture change, and responsible AI adoption is a masterclass in legal leadership.Her message to legal leaders? Start small. Build trust. And above all, don’t wait. “If we, as legal professionals, don’t help shape how technology is used, someone else will.”This episode is essential listening for anyone in legal leadership looking to make AI a force for good in their work.Beyond Billable is a collaboration with NIO House Amsterdam. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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