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Beyond Skepticism

The Psychology of Innate Health | Dr. Catherine-Gray & Dr. McGinty

06 Oct 2025

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For the sixth episode of Beyond Skepticism, Dr. Jeanne Catherine-Gray and Dr. Anita McGinty — COO and CEO of Innate Health Research — join Michael Imas to share both groundbreaking research and practical insights into the 3 Principles understanding. Together, we explore their most important findings, the challenges of staying truly neutral in science, and what it means to measure real transformation in psychology.For early access to videos with minimal or no ads and to support the channel, subscribe to my Substack: https://michaelimas.substack.com/TIMESTAMPS00:00 Trailer 01:25 What is Innate Health Research? 04:46 Why Jeanne chose the 3 Principles for research 11:08 Criticisms from colleagues and the issue of measurement 18:35 How do you make sure to be committed to neutrality? 22:04 What is Innate Health? Why is it effective for some and not for others? 27:54 “I used to think that I was broken. And I’m not.” 29:24 Is it fundamentally true that nobody is broken? Is it dangerous to tell people that? 34:25 Why isn’t 3P spreading faster if it’s so impactful? 39:29 What are the best studies and results in 3P? 48:05 General Factor P in Psychology 52:40 How to ensure comparability between studies without regulation in facilitators? 56:18 How to take grounding into account? 1:02:40 Scaling up the 3 Principles 1:06:53 Do people need to change their worldview for this? 1:11:38 Are the principles circular reasoning? 1:16:00 Why isn’t the community interested in Philosophy and is this a problem for you? 1:20:18 Last Words

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