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Call Her Daddy

Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni: Rebounds, Roommates & Running a Business

30 Apr 2025

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Join Alex in the studio for a conversation with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni, the hosts of Unwell’s newest podcast, The Burnouts! The girls discuss going from enemies to best friends, their most unhinged college life hacks, and their worst rebounds. They also talk about launching a company together and how they navigate being young women in business. Enjoy!

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0.129 - 17.055 Alex Cooper

Daddy gang, welcome back to another episode of Call Her Daddy. I am so excited for you to watch this episode. We have Phoebe Gates and Sophia Chiani on this week's episode. They just launched their podcast called The Burnouts with Unwell, and they are our most recent sign to unwell.

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17.655 - 37.246 Alex Cooper

If you guys are going to become fans of them today, I am just excited for you to listen to their chaotic stories, their best friends, their business partners, and they are officially unwell. The first time I ever met them was on a random Zoom. We had a mutual friend put us together. They were like, you guys are in complete different industries, but maybe you guys will hit it off.

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37.727 - 58.916 Alex Cooper

And one thing led to another, and we recognized, wait, you guys are launching a sustainable fashion company. You're young women in your 20s living in New York. You're figuring life out. Yeah, I want to listen to you guys and hear what you have to say. And so we launched their podcast. They also just launched their company called Fia, and they really have become quickly two of my favorite people.

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58.956 - 85.827 Alex Cooper

They're so funny together. Their banter as business partners and best friends is everything. So without further ado, I'm so excited for you to get to know them. Let's get into it. What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Phoebe Gates and Sophia Chiani, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you for having us.

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86.288 - 94.675 Alex Cooper

Phoebe and Sophia have been up since 2 a.m., 3 a.m.? 5 a.m. Okay, your company just launched today, Thea. How are you guys feeling?

94.715 - 101.081 Phoebe Gates

I feel like we just birthed the child that we've been creating for the last year. It feels nuts. I'm like really excited though.

101.121 - 115.675 Alex Cooper

I'm kind of freaking out a little bit. Launch day for anyone that has a business, anyone first day of school, like a birthday party. I don't even know what the feeling is, but there's just this excitement and I want to get into everything. But first, I do though want people to get to know you better today.

116.175 - 136.986 Alex Cooper

Because this is kind of like now your reintroduction to the world through the lens of Call Her Daddy and the Daddy Gang. So we're going to do it a little Call Her Daddy style. I want to go back to the beginning for you guys in terms of you two met at Stanford. You're in college. You meet. Can you tell me your first impressions of each other and how you actually met?

137.458 - 154.91 Phoebe Gates

Okay, so we met at a football game, right? And Sophia, I was pretty intimidated by because she worked for the UN. Her Instagram basically looked like this girl was a professional award receiver, okay? It's like Times, New York Times, UN, saving the world with her nonprofit. And so I obviously was super jealous of her, I'm not gonna lie.

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