The future of for-profit schools, and the millions of students who have attended them hangs in the balance as a key legal protection is under threat from the courts and the Trump administration. For a transcript of this episode: https://bit.ly/campusfiles-transcripts To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Last week on Campus Files. I called the phone number on the ad for Brooks and then he started asking me questions about my life. Not much money is spent on education. A lot of the money goes to advertising and recruiting. I enter my recruiter's office and he is angry and he turns to me and he goes, I am so sorry. These people are liars. The for-profit college industry ran wild in the 2000s.
50% of our income went to these loans for many, many years. Gaming borrowers from these schools is by design. It's intentional. My experiences with education have been life-changing, and it was really a surprise to me to find out how different other people's experiences could be.
That's Eileen Connor. If you've listened to Campus Files for a while, you'll recognize Eileen from our past episode, Trojan Chorus. In that episode, we covered how her organization, the Project on Predatory Student Lending, also known as the PPSL, sued USC after they allegedly ripped off students by partnering with a for-profit company to offload a chunk of their courses
I knew that there were so many resources going into advocating on behalf of schools. It just felt like somebody needed to be the legal resource and like the passion standing up for students because they were the ones who weren't being considered at the table.
In 2015, just a couple years after the PPSL was founded, there was a crisis in the for-profit school industry. A crisis which brought attention to a little-known law. A law which offered a crucial escape hatch for people like Mike and Ashley, who you heard earlier in this series. It's called borrower defense to repayment, or more simply, borrower defense.
In this third and final part of our for-profit mini-series, we're going to take a look at borrower defense, what it is and why it's important. Because it is important. In many ways, the future of for-profit schools as a whole are tied to the future of borrower defense. And right now, there's a battle playing out in the courts and the federal government.
A battle which may determine the future of this industry for decades to come. I'm Ian Mont. This is Campus Files, for-profit part three. The evidence is clear. Over the last few episodes, you've heard about for-profit schools and the ways they've manipulated students, leaving people like Mike and Ashley buried in debt for years.
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