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How to Become the Anti-Fragile Entrepreneur With Rafael Cortez & Justin Thorstad.

22 Oct 2025

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๐—–๐—˜๐—ข ๐—ฃ๐˜‚๐—น๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐— ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐— ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—˜๐—ฝ ๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—˜๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—œ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—”๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ-๐—™๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—˜๐—ป๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ฒ๐—น ๐—–๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜‡ & ๐—๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฑ.In this episode of Mindset Monday, we explore what it really means to be anti-fragile โ€” to thrive through adversity, chaos, and uncertainty instead of breaking under it.Rafael Cortez and Justin Thorstad break down the emotional intelligence behind the mindset of an anti-fragile entrepreneur โ€” the kind of leader who doesnโ€™t just survive challenges but grows stronger because of them. They discuss how self-awareness, discipline, and perspective help you face setbacks with resilience and use every obstacle as fuel for growth.๐—ฌ๐—ผ๐˜‚โ€™๐—น๐—น ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐˜๐—ผ:- Develop emotional intelligence to navigate stress and burnout.- Shift from being resilient to being anti-fragile โ€” using pressure as power.- Build self-regulation and awareness to stay grounded in chaos.- Reframe adversity as a necessary part of your evolution.- Find joy, curiosity, and purpose in the day-to-day grind of entrepreneurship.- Recognize burnout as a signal of misalignment โ€” not weakness.- Stay unshakable by protecting your peace, focus, and energy.This episode is a powerful reminder that success isnโ€™t about avoiding pain โ€” itโ€™s about transforming it. The moment you stop resisting the chaos and start learning from it, you step into the mindset that makes you unstoppable.Whether youโ€™re building a business, leading a team, or just trying to level up in life โ€” this conversation will challenge your thinking and redefine how you view failure, struggle, and growth.๐—ง๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ:0:00 โ€“ Intro2:30 โ€“ Why Emotional Intelligence Matters in Entrepreneurship6:00 โ€“ The Truth About Burnout and Self-Awareness10:15 โ€“ Resilience vs. Anti-Fragility14:00 โ€“ How to Reframe Chaos as Opportunity19:30 โ€“ Emotional Strength and the Courage to Act25:00 โ€“ Discipline, Alignment, and Daily Awareness30:00 โ€“ Finding Joy and Gratitude in Small Wins35:00 โ€“ Staying Curious and Hungry as a Creator40:00 โ€“ Final Thoughts: Becoming UnshakableConnect with Justin Thorstad:๐Ÿ“ž Cell: (602) 348-8534๐Ÿ“ง Email: [email protected]๐Ÿ”— Website: www.justinthorstad.com๐Ÿ“ฑ Instagram: @justinthorstadFollow Rafael Cortez:๐ŸŒ Website: www.ceopulse.com๐Ÿ“ฑ Instagram: @rafaelcortezceo๐Ÿ“˜ Facebook: @rafaelcortezceoCEO Pulse | The Real, The Raw & The Mind of Entrepreneurship.Your backstage pass to the stories, strategies, and psychology of top-performing entrepreneurs. Subscribe, like, and share for more!#ceopulse #mindsetmonday #entrepreneurship #businessmindset #antifragile #emotionalintelligence #selfawareness #resilience #growth #leadership #success

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