Jesper Kärrbrink of Immense Group: Betting On Recreational Gamblers and Multi-Brand Casino Strategies

In this episode of "CMO Weekly," host Hayley Clover interviews Jesper Kärrbrink, CEO of Immense Group, a visionary leader in the iGaming industry. Kärrbrink shares his extensive career journey, which includes leadership roles at Mr. Green and Svenska Spel, and chairman positions at companies like Parry Play, Internet Vikings, and DeWiz Golf. He is also an author and a proponent of responsible marketing.The discussion begins with Kärrbrink's entry into the iGaming space in 2004, when he became CEO of Svenska Spel. He recounts being dubbed "the last defender of the monopoly" due to his efforts to combat illegal online gambling companies. His strategy involved advocating for regulation changes, improving Svenska Spel's online presence, and prioritizing player protection. Kärrbrink pioneered the concept of "canalization" in the gaming industry, arguing for keeping players within the regulated system for better control and protection, a concept still relevant today.Kärrbrink elaborates on Immense Group's strategy under the operational leadership of Alexander Stevendahl, which involves deliberately lowering Average Revenue Per User (ARPU) by setting limits for players to attract recreational gamblers rather than high rollers. He emphasizes that this approach leads to a more sustainable business model and better player protection, even if it means guiding players to reduce their spending or, in extreme cases, blocking them to prevent problematic gambling.The conversation then shifts to Immense Group's transformation from a single online casino brand to a multi-brand platform with global reach. Kärrbrink explains that his role as CEO of the holding company focuses on long-term strategy and ownership, while Alexander Stevendahl oversees daily operations. He highlights the success of Mr. Vegas, a brand launched by Video Slots, which has grown to the same size as Video Slots itself. Immense Group has since launched additional brands like Kunga slots, Mega Riches, and Dibet to reach new players without increasing ARPU. Each brand has its own DNA and target demographic, allowing for diversification and growth across more markets.Kärrbrink and Clover also discuss marketing strategies, focusing on the importance of organic reach and building brand confidence through sponsorships. Kärrbrink praises Immense's CMO, Marco, for innovative campaigns like sponsoring West Bromwich Albion and Dart events with the Mr. Vegas brand character. He shares an anecdote about Svenska Spel's successful scratch ticket, Trisslottn, whose virality was boosted by media attention and a shortage due to a printing facility fire. Kärrbrink likens marketing success to a combination of hard work and luck, quoting skier Ingmar Stenmark: "The more I train, the more luck I have".Looking ahead, Kärrbrink predicts a future where gambling and gaming merge, with more integrated experiences like live betting overlays during streamed football games. He anticipates a significant impact from AI, which will enhance operational efficiency, fraud detection, and problematic gambling detection. AI will also lead to games adapting to individual player preferences. Kärrbrink emphasizes the need for an open mind to adapt to the exponential changes driven by technology.In a rapid-fire question round, Kärrbrink shares his love for salty black licorice candy , his desire to have dinner with Barack Obama and Nelson Mandela , and his favorite city, Stockholm. He expresses concern about the future of democracy and truth in 30 years. Describing his personal energy as a cocktail, he imagines a "Spicy Passion Fruit Spritz" with champagne bubbles for energy and passion fruit for his 110% dedication. Finally, Kärrbrink admires Reebok's revitalization under Shaq and Yoniel, and Coca-Cola's sustained success and adaptation to changing consumer trends.

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