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How Do You Want People to Feel?: Creative Structure and Intentional Chaos with Olivia Vagelos

04 Aug 2025

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How do you create a custom career that feels good in practice (and not just recreate the subpar working conditions you intentionally left behind?) Olivia Vagelos runs a creative agency called Design for Feelings Studio where she does everything from coaching couples designing their weddings to consulting on the experience of "people pooping in space on commercial space travel." With a background in product design and years at IDEO.org, Olivia has crafted a unique practice centered around one deceptively simple question: "How do you want people to feel?"In this conversation, we explore how Olivia left IDEO during peak COVID days only to accidentally recreate all the same structures she'd purposefully wanted to leave with her corporate job. And how she course corrected to build a business that actually lets her take time to stare at trees and research magic tricks.She shares practical wisdom about playtesting early and often, designing time itself as an experience, and how she's building her latest creative sandbox, The Good Chaos Club. Listen to find out why Olivia thinks that the best creatives often fall prey to burnout (it has to do with being radically uninspired!) You can find Olivia at: Website: Design For Feelings StudioThe Good Chaos ClubSubstack: https://designingforfeelings.substack.com/

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