Confronting The Line
E51 Thoughts on Landmark, Trauma & Moral Injury: A Follow up Conversation with Brian Arbor (Part 1)
28 Oct 2025
In this follow-up conversation, Anne Peterson and former Landmark staff member Brian Arbor take an unflinching look at what happens when transformational ideals collide with organizational control.⚠️ Content Note: This episode includes discussion of psychological harm, trauma, and moral injury. Please listen with care and take breaks as needed.A longtime participant and staffer, Brian reflects on the promises and hidden costs of his years inside Landmark Worldwide — from the hope of “making a difference” to the trauma, moral injury, and identity loss that can come from total immersion in high-control environments. Together, Anne and Brian begin to explore the REM Model (Rationalization, Emotion & Morals) developed by Chris Shelton and how it illuminates the inner conflict many experience when “help” begins to harm. More on this in PART TWO of their conversation next week! This episode continues Confronting the Line’s mission to examine both sides — the light and the dark — of the self-help industry, revealing how good intentions can be weaponized and how healing begins with truth-telling.Part 1 of 2 — Part 2 drops soon.RESOURCES & LINKS: Check out Brian’s Traces of Trauma Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/pl/podcast/traces-of-trauma/id1827823981 Our previous episodes when Brian first speaks up about trauma and transformationE35 https://youtu.be/5gRwymEAzCs?si=3ellNVscfFRhBHS4E36 https://youtu.be/YAWyJKdfwzY?si=AqQUIl5o5zt0kbmn Get in contact with Anne or read her Book Is This A Cult: Confronting the Line Between Exploitation and Transformation and find other pods and resources → https://isthisacultbook.com/ If you or someone you know is wrestling with recovery after being involved in a high-control group, relationship or any organization, check out the Healthy Healing and Recovery Group w/ Rachel Bernstein https://ilumn8.life/op/lgat-recovery-group/ MODERATION NOTE: While healthy debate and discussion regarding the topics being discussed is encouraged, personal (ad hominem) attacks on people, places or things will be deleted.
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