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Drowning in tariffs, American businesses try to stay afloat

10 Apr 2025

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It's pretty rare for one person to do one thing that affects nearly every business in the United States. But that's the power of the presidency and the new tariffs that took effect this week. Over the last few days, as the tariffs have gone up and down, NPR has been talking to Americans who run different kinds of businesses. Even though their companies don't have much in common, all of them are doing the same thing right now: Trying to figure out what's going on and how to respond. Trump's tariff plans affect nearly every company in America. We'll hear from a few business owners about what it means for themFor sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Email us at [email protected] more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.678 - 6.587 Ari Shapiro

One way to tell the story of a trade war is through a curved piece of silicone called the frywall.

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6.887 - 12.255 Yair Reiner

Frywall keeps the sizzle in the pan and the splatter off of you and your stovetop.

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12.998 - 28.842 Ari Shapiro

That is the inventor of the frywall, Yair Reiner, on Shark Tank back in 2018. Reiner priced out what it would cost for him to produce his invention in the U.S. and figured to turn a profit, he'd have to sell a made-in-the-USA frywall for about 80 bucks.

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28.862 - 31.703 Yair Reiner

You know, it's really hard to sell a splatter guard for that much money.

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32.054 - 35.318 Ari Shapiro

Even the best splatter guard in the world is not going to sell for $80.

35.398 - 40.144 Yair Reiner

Precisely. It is the best splatter guard in the world, but splatter just is not as important as other things.

40.485 - 47.934 Ari Shapiro

So he makes it in China, which allows him to sell it for about $25. And he says that money gets spread around to many parts of the U.S. economy.

48.266 - 71.433 Yair Reiner

It goes to the U.S. Postal Service, which provides my quote-unquote free shipping. If I sell on Amazon, it goes to Amazon. It has to pay its warehouse workers. I also have to pay my patent attorney so that my patent is protected and I can't get ripped off. It has to go to PR. It has to go to marketing. It has to go to the software firms that I use to operate and run my business.

71.633 - 81.458 Ari Shapiro

But now President Trump has put a 145 percent tariff on goods from China. At least that's the number as we record this Thursday afternoon. It's been a moving target.

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