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Trump's tariffs and rhetoric strain historic Windsor-Detroit friendship

23 Feb 2025

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President Donald Trump's tariffs and comments about turning Canada into the 51st state have tested U.S. relations with the country. One example is the deterioration of longstanding bonds between Detroit, Michigan and its neighbor across the river, Windsor, Ontario. NPR's Don Gonyea is a Detroit native and current resident of the city. He's had a front row view to changing attitudes between the two populations who have long enjoyed a very friendly, symbiotic relationship.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Email us at [email protected] more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.269 - 15.266 Don Gonyea

As a Detroit native and current resident of the city, I've had a front-row seat to what Donald Trump's proposed tariffs are doing to U.S. relations with Canada, not to mention his recent comments about turning it into the 51st state.

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16.767 - 47.358 Don Gonyea

In fact, there may be no better real-time example of the deterioration than the long-standing bond between my hometown and its neighbor across the river, Windsor, Ontario. As the auto parts capital of Canada, Windsor's economy and identity has for decades been linked to the Motor City. According to government data, Ontario has more than 100,000 automobile jobs, not counting the spinoff jobs.

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48.059 - 78.832 Don Gonyea

And the two populations have enjoyed a very friendly, symbiotic relationship since way back before my time. But consider this. As Trump threatens to annex one of the U.S. 's closest allies and hit products crossing the border with 25% tariffs, the historic harmony between these two sister cities is already starting to fray as Windsor residents deal with Trump's policies and rhetoric.

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84.573 - 86.554 Don Gonyea

From NPR, I'm Don Gagné.

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116.317 - 130.596 Don Gonyea

It's Consider This from NPR. Whether they're speaking out publicly or just holding on a little tighter to their wallets, the Detroit-Windsor friendship is running as cold as the Detroit River this month.

131.357 - 155.924 Don Gonyea

I wanted to pull at some of those unraveling threads, so I took NPR producer Lauren Hodges to Detroit's Riverside Park under the Ambassador Bridge, where we could look across the Detroit River to Canada not even a half mile away. This is the busiest commercial border crossing in North America. The Ambassador Bridge is right there to our right.

156.542 - 188.005 Don Gonyea

a still under construction second span called the Gordie Howe International Bridge, named after a Canadian native and Detroit hockey great, Gordie Howe. And that bridge, to me, named after Howe, symbolizes the many connections between the U.S. and Canada and this narrow span that separates them. I grew up on the Detroit side, watching Canadian television, listening to Canadian radio stations.

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