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282: “Who Am I Now?” Matrescence and Identity Crises After Becoming a Mom with Psychotherapist Elizabeth Baron

29 Jan 2025

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In this episode, I sit down with Elizabeth Baron, a maternal mental health psychotherapist, to discuss all things matrescence: the physical and psychological changes that come from being a mother. Elizabeth shares the history of the term, how matrescence is a long-term journey, and how overwhelming feelings of ambivalence can play a role. We talk about the “apology tour” of motherhood, the range of experiences that can come from matrescence, and why grief over leaving your pre-motherhood life is natural. She also shares why the four to six month postpartum mark is often significant for mothers, what the “Ghost in the Nursery” paper reveals about reparenting ourselves, how we can allow our children to become who they are, and more.Key Takeaway / Points:On matrescence, what it means, and the history of the termOn matrescence being a long-term journeyOn ambivalence, the constant push-pull, and the shame that comes from itOn the “apology tour” of motherhoodOn the range of experiences that come out of matrescenceOn the unrealistic image of the perfect motherOn the grief that comes with leaving your pre-motherhood lifeOn the scientific data from studying matrescenceWhy the four-six month postpartum mark is often significant for mothersOn the comparison culture that has tainted our expectations for ourselvesOn the “Ghost in the Nursery” paper and reparenting ourselvesOn parenting your children individuallyOn allowing our children become who they areOn the reconciliation process in motherhoodHow Elizabeth fills her cupThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Visit shopstakt.com/conversationswithcam and use code CAMERON for 20% off your purchaseVisit join.arya.fyi/cameron for 15% off your subscription todayVisit TheBeast.com and use code CAMERON at checkout for 15% off your purchaseVisit sakara.com and use code CAMERON at checkout for 20% your first purchaseFollow Elizabeth:Instagram: @withelizabethbWebsite: www.withelizabethb.comFollow me:Instagram: @cameronoaksrogers and @conversationswithcamSubstack: Fill Your CupWebsite: cameronoaksrogers.comTikTok: @cameronoaksrogers and @conversations_with_camSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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