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Unlocking Data Trapped Behind Walled Gardens to Help People Gain Control of Their Most Personal Information, with Art Abal @ Vana (Audio)

17 Nov 2025

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Art Abal is co-founder of Vana. Art is an expert in data systems, with a career dedicated to unlocking the value of human data across AI, governance, and global supply chains. He holds a Master in Public Policy from Harvard, where his research at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs focused on human data collection in corporate supply chains.At Appen, one of the world’s largest providers of AI training data, Art led global impact data sourcing—managing a crowd of over 8 million contributors across 160+ countries. He helped design and operate data pipelines for some of the most widely used AI products in the world, including Google Search, Facebook Feed, and ChatGPT. His work focused on responsible data sourcing at massive scale, ensuring high-quality human signal for next-generation AI systems.Art has also completed extensive human data studies for Fortune 500 companies and national governments, translating psychometric and behavioral data into measurable economic and social insights. His work spans data collection methodology, human-centered research, data markets, and AI training pipelines—making him a leading voice in DataFi, data economics, and the future of human-AI interaction.Earlier in his career, Art served as Senior Legal and Policy Advisor to the Prime Minister of Timor-Leste, where he supported data gathering and institutional design to support the development of the world’s fourth-newest nation. He began his professional journey as a corporate lawyer at DLA Piper, working on cross-border transactions and sovereign governance.

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