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Pain is a Moat: How Australia’s Top AI Founders Are Building Global Giants

11 Dec 2025

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What does it take to build world class AI companies out of Australia, and why does San Francisco still move 6 to 9 months faster? In this episode, Brendan sits down with three of the most ambitious technical founders in the country: Pasha Rayan (CEO & Co-Founder at A1Base), Anshul Jain (Co-Founder at Everlab) and Jacky Koh (Founder at Relevance AI).They break down the rise of agentic AI, how engineering culture in SF accelerates innovation, and why the next generation of founders need to think in $100B outcomes. They dive into everything from 10 to 20 times engineering productivity gains, to building autonomous healthcare, to creating the communication layer for AI coworkers that everyday people will talk to like friends.They also unpack what Australia must do to stay competitive, how to build teams that love hard problems, and why ambition, pace and hands-on founders matter more than ever. It’s a rare inside look at the operators defining the next era of AI infrastructure, agent orchestration and human health.If you want to understand where AI agents are really going, and how Australia can catch up to the frontier, get subscribed.Oversubscribed is proudly supported by our sponsor Vanta 🦙Vanta is the all-in-one solution for startups to become compliant quickly and build a security foundation with ease. Startup customers get $1000 off Vanta at vanta.com/oversubscribedThe Day One NetworkOversubscribed is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.

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