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Growthitect Guest Episode: Why “Word of Mouth” Is Failing Most Architecture Firms with Rens Hayes

10 Dec 2025

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This week's episode is a guest episode with Rens Hayes IV on the Growthitect Podcast with Tyler Suomala (also featured in Design Development, EP147).The discussion offers an insightful exploration into building a robust, long-term growth strategy that effectively balances relationship building with strategic marketing since word of mouth alone may not suffice in today's competitive landscape. The episode unpacks the prevalent myth that architecture and engineering firms can thrive on word of mouth alone by emphasizing the necessity of developing a comprehensive business strategy. With an aim to equip firm owners with the right tools, the conversation navigates through essential concepts like the identification of the ideal customer and the critical importance of delivering distinguishable value. Key Takeaways:Value Articulation: Understanding and clearly articulating the unique value your firm provides is essential for attracting ideal clients and driving successful word-of-mouth marketing.Strategic Growth Planning: Avoid relying solely on word of mouth; instead, implement a long-term growth strategy that includes active marketing and brand consistency.Client Language: Communicate your firm's value in terms that resonate with clients, like cost savings or efficiency improvements, rather than industry jargon.Business Resilience: In downturns, firms that demonstrate clearly defined value propositions and strategic marketing plans maintain a competitive edge.Continual Learning: Constantly seek out business education opportunities to mitigate risks and increase the value of your firm over time.Notable Quotes:"The actual goal is to win the right project with the right customer for the right price. It's not to win every project at any price." – Renz Hayes"Word of mouth doesn't just mean, like, I hope they say Renz is cool. It's about what they are actually saying about your firm." – Tyler Sumula"A lot of businesses are the same. The unique part is the industry-specific delivery." – Renz Hayes"How do architects know if word-of-mouth referrals will not dry up, and are they prepared for when that day comes?" – Tyler Sumula"If you don't know who you serve and how you create value to them, you can't influence word of mouth in the right direction." – Renz HayesResources:H&O Structural Engineering: H&O Engineering WebsiteLinkedIn: Follow Rens HayesPodcast: Design Development: Available on Apple, Spotify, and other platformsThe Compound Effect by Darren HardyExtreme Ownership by Jocko WillinkThank you so much for listening and thank you for joining the Design Development community. Don't forget to subscribe to hear about the latest episodes dropping every Wednesday. If this episode resonated with you, share it with a friend.Our goal is to help people in the industry identify opportunities for growth by sharing the journey of top performers. There is no one path. Success isn't a straight line. There is something to learn from everyone's story. Let's go!Leave your thoughts in the comments and reach out if you want to be a valuable guest on the show! Follow us on LinkedIn, Instagram & YouTubeFind out more at https://h-o.engineering/podcasts/

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