Digital Social Hour
The Shocking Science Behind Vitamin A Toxicity | Dr. Garrett Smith DSH #1329
Tue, 15 Apr 2025
🚨 Discover the truth about vitamin A toxicity and how it could be affecting your health! 🚨 Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour as he sits down with the brilliant Dr. Garrett Smith, aka the "Nutrition Detective," to uncover the shocking science behind this misunderstood nutrient. From its hidden dangers in everyday foods to its role in chronic diseases, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won’t believe! 🧠💡 💥 Learn how vitamin A toxicity can impact weight loss, liver function, and even inherited health issues. Dr. Smith shares groundbreaking strategies to detox your body, optimize your health, and uncover the root causes of common ailments like acne, fatigue, and autoimmune conditions. 🙌✨ Don’t miss out on this eye-opening conversation that could change how you view "healthy" diets forever. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more mind-blowing episodes on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:32 - Dr. Smith's Vitamin A Journey 03:06 - Sources of Vitamin A in Food 07:05 - Detoxification Timeline 08:02 - Inheriting Toxins from Parents 11:39 - Understanding Caloric Deficit 16:11 - Methylene Blue Explained 19:50 - Guidance for Methylene Blue Users 22:12 - The Myth of Herb Deficiency 22:38 - Cancer as Toxicity Storage 26:13 - Health Improvement Without Sacrificing Quality of Life 26:44 - Importance of Vitamin D 32:30 - Exploring Vitamin A Benefits 41:36 - The Impact of Seed Oils 43:16 - Detox Speed and Toxicity Levels 44:50 - Addressing Hormone Issues 47:50 - The Bile Paradigm Explained 49:29 - Finding Dr. Garrett APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Dr. Garrett Smith https://www.instagram.com/nutritiondetectiveworldwide https://nutritiondetective.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. #holistichealth #functionalmedicine #nutritiondetective #nutritionwithjudy #drgarrettsmith
Chapter 1: Who is Dr. Garrett Smith and what sparked his interest in Vitamin A toxicity?
All right, guys, Dr. Garrett Smith here today. We're going to talk about important health things. Yes, I'm excited. I think you're most known for the vitamin A stuff these days, right?
Yeah, that's kind of my thing. I'm kind of the expert in that. Yeah, which we head into that one. Yeah, let's start. OK, well, so the big thing was I kind of got started into what I heard about a guy named Grant Jenner. I just had him on my podcast. He figured out he had jaundice, which is where you turn yellow. Yeah, liver messing up. Right.
He had chronic kidney disease and he had really bad eggs. Thank you. And he looked at about 10, the top 10 foods that triggered eczema. And he figured out the thing in common of them was nine of the 10 had vitamin A in them. And as an engineer, he just thought, well, I'll just take that on my diet. He made a diet for that. He did it. He fixed all three of his conditions.
He was the first guy who his nephrologist, his kidney doctors had seen fixed that chronic kidney disease completely. Wow. So I started doing with my clients and I didn't want people to have to do exactly what Grant did, which was a very limited diet. It was like, you know, five different foods. And I knew that I wouldn't do that.
I knew that I wanted to help people get better, but I also, I wouldn't do that diet. So I started looking into other low vitamin A foods and I kind of came up with this approach. And I came up with, I looked more into the detox processes of vitamin A. So we could kind of scientifically figure out how to make this happen the best. And now... Grant's been doing it for 10 years. I'm at six years.
And we have people healing all sorts of diseases that people think can't be fixed. Now, we do more than just low vitamin A diet. But that is a huge foundation of it. Because a lot of people think vitamin A is healthy. And we don't. And I think a lot of people in the health field don't get better because they're actually eating things that are toxic. Their intention is good to get better.
The problem is their method is not working the way they want because they're encouraged to put in a poison that's actually getting in the way. Because it's in a lot of multivitamins, right? Oh, man. Multivitamins are real bad. I mean, it's in prenatals. There's only one vitamin that women are told not to take or not to overdo during pregnancy, and that's vitamin A. Really? Yeah.
So when you hear about things that cause birth defects... You should immediately be going. Those aren't good for adults either. Wow. Doesn't that make sense, though? Like, it's just it affects the babies the most because their their cells are dividing the fastest. And that's when you can have the most problems occur. Dang.
So just because adults are more developed, it doesn't mean that it's not bad for us. It just takes longer to show up.
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Chapter 2: What are the natural sources of Vitamin A and why is it considered toxic?
So, yeah. Now, how is it getting in these foods? Because it's a man-made vitamin, right? Well, no, no.
Vitamin A, it occurs naturally in foods. The way all vitamin A, people will talk about plant vitamin A or carotenoids, which is like beta carotene. You might have heard of that. Yeah. And then they talk about animal vitamin A, which is retinol. There is no retinol in animals anywhere without carotenoids first. Carotenoids come into us or an animal.
We have an enzyme that can chop it in half, and then we get two retinaldehydes, and that can turn into retinol. So basically, it's a plant-based toxin. We always have to remember that plants... they don't have claws. They don't have teeth. They can't run. So the only defense they have against the world is chemical warfare. And that's part of what is going on with this. Right.
So, so yeah, so that's, it's, it is natural. It's in foods. It's in supplements. Um, it's in things like cod liver oil and dairy and butter. And you know, a lot of, a lot of dairy has a lot of vitamin D. I love cheese.
Yeah. Well, it's my heart now. It, uh, what about raw though?
Well, raw, okay. The detox process of vitamin A is actually one of oxidation. We were talking about that a second ago. Oxidation moves vitamin A along the detox process. So raw versus, let's say, heated vitamin A, it just moves it down some steps. The problem with vitamin A that people don't realize is as it goes through the detox process, it actually gets more toxic. Damn.
So technically, could raw vitamin A in food In that form, be less damaged. Sure. Okay. But it's going to go through the same detox process in your body as cooking. It's all, it's all, we very much get into kind of the actual science of detox and it starts to make sense. And then we can, we can actually impact it at specific areas. Like an enzyme I work a lot on is LDH. It's aldehyde dehydrogenase.
And so we're actually scientifically making sure we're not slowing down detox and we're giving the body what it needs to move forward. Wow. Damn. I got to chill on the pizza then, huh? You know, it's a lot of human disease is just accumulation of toxins because a lot of these things are fat soluble. Vitamin A is fat soluble.
When you think of the word fat soluble, you want to think of fat storable. So if you take in more of these things than you get rid of, you're going to store them in your fat and you're going to slowly accumulate them. And this is why we tend to think of aging as You know, people are just aging. They just go, you're just getting older. It just sucks. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How does Vitamin A toxicity accumulate and affect aging and weight loss?
Like as an example, we had a mom who had had her fourth child recently. All three kids were jaundiced before when they were born, which means, I mean, 80% of kids are being born jaundiced. What? Are you serious? Yeah. This means their livers are not good from the get-go. Oh my gosh. I didn't know it was that high. Yeah. They're starting with their livers behind.
And then, so she just had her fourth child while she, after she had been work doing my work, not jaundice. Damn. Like, so we're just, we're fixing the liver problems that, you know, all those kids inherited. A lot of people, a lot of people notice a pattern that the first child in a family is like the healthiest one.
And then as you have more kids, they start to kind of get sicker or they have more problems. the mom's accumulating toxicity that whole time. And so each kid is grabbing on to a bigger chunk. That makes sense. And we just, we're here to resolve that and fix it. Yeah.
Yeah. I plan on having kids soon and we're like super aware of the health of the woman now. Yeah.
I mean, it's still the dad, the child marinates in the mom basically for like nine months, right? So what the mom has in her is going to make the biggest impact. But of course the dad's, the dad's contribution still has a huge impact. Right. So we, we both, we, we want it to be both men and women being healthy. Yeah.
So I didn't realize how much it got passed down though. That is super interesting. Cause that age old nature versus nurture debate, right?
Yeah. Well, people want to think that we're all clean slates, right? It's just, then they don't have to take as much responsibility. But the problem is, is there is a huge amount of responsibility that we're passing down and it impacts the kids. And this, this is why we have so many problems today that we didn't before is It's just these problems. ADHD, autism. It's all just toxicity.
I mean, well, it's not all just toxicity. There's deficiencies, too. So we work on nutrient deficiencies and toxicity. Yeah. Vitamin D is a big deficiency these days, right? Well, no. Vitamin D. Well, here's the funny thing. I don't know if we're going to hit on vitamin D too much today, but it's considered in the research that vitamin D and vitamin A are antagonistic.
So what that means is if vitamin A goes up, like toxicity goes up, your vitamin D goes down. So if we're sitting here discussing and I'm saying there's a vitamin A toxicity epidemic, if when vitamin A goes up, vitamin D goes down, do you see what I'm getting at? So is it a vitamin D deficiency epidemic or is it a vitamin A toxicity epidemic that's then causing that?
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Chapter 4: What is the impact of inherited toxicity from parents on health?
It's like a lot of people with their house and they have too much stuff in their house, right? So they got to get it out of their house so that their house can function. Also, they put it in a storage unit, right? Well, your body can make storage units like body fat. It can store it in the liver itself, which is fatty liver. So fat-soluble toxins, your body will make more storage.
And then what we can do to bring down that body fat is as we get the fat-soluble toxins out, then the body goes, I don't need to keep this anymore. So this is a lot of times, I did a whole live stream on this where when people were losing weight quickly, right? They were dumping tons of fat soluble toxins in their bloodstream and they measured this.
And I believe that this is actually why a lot of people when let's say they have a lot of weight to lose and they do and they they're losing it and then they kind of stall. Yeah. What's happening is the amount of toxins that are going in their blood is now affecting their thyroid and their ability to to burn more fat. Their body saying we can't do this anymore.
And then the body would actually put a lot of those toxins back in the fat. So the fat is, they have less fat now, right? Some of the toxins are going back in that they're actually more concentrated in toxins. Jeez. And this is why a lot of people, when they try to do the same diet again, it only works like half as much. Wow. And then they try it again and it only works like two pounds.
And they're like, I don't understand. I'm doing the same diet I did, but I'm not losing any more weight. Because as soon as they start dropping body fat or burning body fat, they dump so much toxicity in their bloodstream, but it just shuts it down. So the whole calories in calories out is kind of like, does it have an impact? Of course. However, the body will resist losing weight.
If, if the toxicity coming out was going to be too dangerous or if it shuts down things too fast, you just won't, you just won't lose it. Yeah.
So that is super interesting. Cause when you see these bodybuilders that are super lean, they're not the healthiest after they retire. Oh no, they're, they're, they're not living very long. Yeah.
And I never even thought it was a toxin thing. Well, yeah, when you think of how low their body fat is and what they must be storing there. Yeah, 3 to 5%. So if they lose all their body fat, what's the last place left to store fat-soluble toxins? It's their liver. Liver king. Oh, the liver king, yeah.
Well, that's kind of an example of, I have people look at this, which is health influencers who are red. When you see a person who is red, like they're tan, but they're red. Yeah. their liver is not happy. Jeez. Yeah, that's a bad sign of a liver. And that's in Chinese medicine, like traditional Chinese medicine, like being red in the face, like you see a lot of alcoholics.
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Chapter 5: How do Vitamin A toxicity and Vitamin D deficiency relate to each other?
I mean, the first thing is it's a it's it's a it's a dye. It's an azo dye.
azo dyes i was just going over this the other day uh red 40 really and yellow five are known to be like toxic food colorings yeah those are azo dyes so methylene blue is the blue version of an azo dye it's it's got i mean i was going over the poison control website where they were talking about methylene blue the other day um meth it's stored in the nerves it's stored in the fat tissues methylene blue is a fat soluble toxins and i showed research in um
on my Twitter thread and on my video about how it is, it is, it accumulates inside the cells. Like they actually said, like insoluble solids of methylene blue were forming inside the cells. Jeez. It's used as a fish tank cleaner, as a biocide. So bio life side to kill, right? So it's a biocide. It's a port-a-potty, you know, the blue stuff in a port-a-potty. That's methylene blue.
It's sometimes it is. Yes, absolutely. Cause I mean, if you think about it for the fish tank cleaner, right, what would be better? to use in a porta potty to keep it, you know, so they can clean it out easy when they're done. Right. So the big thing is, I mean, people will say they feel better on it and I go, okay, It is an MAOI antidepressant. So it's a pharmaceutical.
I mean, it is a pharmaceutical. It's sold as a pharmaceutical. It has a black box warning. When they use it in IVs in hospitals and they use it as an oral, it has a black box warning, which is the highest warning that the FDA gives. And then people put a small concentration of it into a dropper bottle and they think it's fine. Well, it's an antidepressant. It is literally an antidepressant.
It's an antipsychotic compound. And it's a stimulant. So imagine if people were taking something that's an antidepressant, an antipsychotic, and a stimulant. They might feel good, right? But it's accumulating in their system. This is the thing that people don't understand. They'll say, well, it's not toxic short term. But we go, but it's accumulating over time.
I can joke that you shoot somebody with a .22 bullet, right? It doesn't kill them. But if you start accumulating 22 shots in you, at some point you're going to go down, right? So it's just accumulating damage. It's accumulating toxicity. And this is where people, they just don't get it because the pharmaceutical industry does short-term studies. They don't do long-term studies.
And there is no long-term data on taking this methylene blue low dose. And there's another guy, I actually posted a thread on Twitter by Tuluminati888. And he was showing, he has been in this industry for a long time. They investigated methylene blue like 10 years ago as a nootropic, as a brain nutrient, right? They ditched it because there was too many side effects. Holy crap.
They saw it come on slowly. So you have all these people saying, I don't have problems yet. And I'm going, that's that key word, yet. Yet. It's like the COVID vaccine. Yeah. Yeah. It's, so you just don't, I mean, the whole thing is, is a lot of people who are taking it are into the natural, you know, they're into the natural health. Yeah, RFK is taking it. Which is weird. Yeah.
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Chapter 6: What are the dangers and effects of using methylene blue as a supplement?
So they got to shut down your detox stronger and they just keep doing it until all of a sudden the toxin overwhelms the person.
Yeah.
And that's, but that's what we're talking about here. A lot of people are doing that With supplements or other things, they're just doing it on a daily basis. Methylene blue. They just shut down their detox. They feel better for a while. And then eventually the problem is going to pop its head through because it just it's like a dam breaking.
You just can't store the toxicity anymore. Yeah. So, yeah, that's concerning, man, because a lot of people rely on supplements and they don't even know what they're taking. Oh yeah.
I mean, we do, we do some supplements. I mean, I, I've, I have a supplement line, but we're, we're trying to do stuff like simple things like zinc. Like you need zinc. The food doesn't have the zinc and is supposed to have anymore.
Like, so we're just working on like minerals and the most basic things that, you know, we're trying to do a lot of times they're single ingredients because we want people to know like you're, you're an experiment of one. I'm an experiment of one. We might try the same zinc pill and, And it might not be enough for me, but you might not feel good on a certain dose. So you take less. Yeah.
That's just that's just individuality. Like when I see people on the Internet, they're like, everybody needs to take this many milligrams of this every day. And I'm like, that's not how this works at all. So we're respecting each person so they can figure things out. The more toxic people are at the start of doing this kind of work, the slower they got to go oftentimes.
Or, you know, some people can go faster and maybe get through it sooner. But the whole idea is we're trying to improve people's health while we're not. You know, a lot of people, when they try to detox, they know they're going to suffer. Yeah. Well, we're trying not to ruin their quality of life. as much as possible.
We're trying to help them get better while they're enjoying life, or at least it's getting better along the way. They're not making themselves suffer.
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Chapter 7: Is there really an herb deficiency, and how do toxins affect chronic diseases?
When I was on Accutane, I had to get a monthly blood test to make sure I wasn't dying. And it was the worst I've ever felt. Like constipated, no emotion. It was destroying me. I would never do it again. Never recommend it. And now what I know now, all the acne was diet related. What was it? It was, well, I have the motherfucker gene break. I was eating a lot of dairy and bread and stuff.
So I think it was the carbs.
Well, so it's probably not carb. Well, dairy, right? Okay. So the big things that we do to help acne, I have a whole live stream on acne, but vitamin A. Dairy is full of vitamin A. Well, they add vitamin A and vitamin D to regular dairy. And then a zinc deficiency is a big part of it. And then gluten, well, the issue with modern gluten is a lot of it's the glyphosate that's in it.
Wow.
So you take out the dairy, you're taking out a lot of vitamin A and vitamin D and excessive calcium. And then you take out the gluten, you're taking out glyphosate, which slows your vitamin A detox. And then you see, so that can be enough for you. Like back when you were younger, that could be enough. And, you know, obviously you didn't get along with the Accutane. No. So this is what we do.
Like chocolate is actually legit, like a thing that can aggravate acne in people. Really? Like the things where we see the urban legends of things that worsen acne. Like I could tell you each one of those things, how they slow detox. And why they would make acne worse. So we usually, we see very good results with acne. Yeah. Pretty quick.
And nobody has to take Accutane. No doctor or dermatologist I went to talked about diet. That was the crazy part. It was all like a pill.
I've had people, the thing where people start to really question modern medicine is when I have people, they go to gastroenterologists, right? Gut doctors. And the gut doctors will legitimately tell them that what you eat has nothing to do with your gut problem. What? Yeah.
And I always tell them, I'm like, if you go to a dermatologist, right, and you have a rash on your skin, first thing they're going to ask you is, what are you washing your clothes with? What are you putting on your skin? What are you doing? Sorry. What are you doing to cause this? What are you applying to your skin? Why are gastroenterologists not asking people, what are you applying to your gut?
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Chapter 8: Could cancer be a form of toxicity storage tissue and how does this change treatment?
So if we're healing an autoimmune condition, They may need time where they have to be away from things, but then eventually we can bring it back in. So it's kind of a phase thing. We had one woman, she could not eat out at restaurants because if there was any gluten on like the fork that wasn't washed off, she'd be wrecked for three days. Holy crap. She wouldn't eat from convenience stores.
She wouldn't eat from restaurants. She just, she was, you know, kind of in a way a shut in. But now she's actually to the point now where she was going to try it, like actually try eating some gluten instead of just like dust on a fork. That's nuts. So it's really cool. Yeah. Where are you out on the seed oil debate? Because I know that's a hot one. Seed oils.
Well, this kind of gets into all the stuff about detox that we do. Now, what color are most seed oils? Yellow. What color is vitamin A? Is it yellow? Yeah. So we start going, okay, so seed oils do have a lot of vitamin A. We absorb fat-soluble toxins. via fat. So seed oil, right? Vitamin A in oil, that's the best way to absorb it. Then we get into the PUFA thing, right?
The polyunsaturated fatty acids. One of the big things, we talked about aldehyde dehydrogenase, right? Aldehyde dehydrogenase is a very important detox enzyme that detoxes aldehydes. Aldehydes are toxic.
Mm-hmm.
One of the forms of vitamin A is retinaldehyde. Nobody talks about it, but we know that aldehydes are toxic. And then people are going to try to say that an aldehyde is a vitamin. Start going, that doesn't make any sense. So aldehyde is one of the things that PUFAs turn into that people don't tend to talk about much as it turns into malon dialdehyde and 4-hydroxy non-analdehyde.
These are both really toxic and they, they often, um, use, they measure these to see how much, you know, inflammation of the things are going on in the body for, in a short way. So when you're putting in PUFAs, well, when you're putting in seed oils, you're putting in vitamin A, you're putting in PUFAs, the PUFAs turn to aldehydes and then actually malonyldehyde slows down ALDH.
So the very toxin that's coming in is slowing down detox. one of the crazy things I tell people is that when the more toxic you become, the slower your detox goes, right? People understand that if you drive a car a long time, you don't clean it and maintain it and stuff like that. It's, it's going to be less efficient. Well, same thing with your body.
The more toxic your body becomes, the slower the detox runs. Yeah. And then people are often taking things to slow their detox. They don't realize it, but that's what they're doing to get, to feel a little better. Yeah. And they're slowing it all down.
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