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Dr. John Vervaeke

After Socrates: Episode 21 - The I-Thou Relationship

08 May 2023

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In this episode of After Socrates, host Dr. John Vervaeke invites his guests, Christopher Mastropietro and Guy Sengstock, to explore the intricacies of Martin Buber's 'I-Thou' concept. Mastropietro, an academic scholar, and Sengstock, an experienced dialogue facilitator, provide their insights on this complex philosophical framework, delving into its impact on personal relationships and human existence. The discussion illuminates the transformative potential of 'I-Thou' encounters, the primacy of dialogical relationships in constituting personhood, and the profound connection between vulnerability and relationality. Furthermore, it examines the significance of 'I-Thou' relationships in our interactions with inanimate objects and the environment, introducing an enthralling perspective on person-environment co-extension. This episode offers a treasure trove of philosophical insights for those seeking a deeper understanding of human existence and personal growth. If you liked this content, please consider joining our Patreon to support future series! Visit https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke to sign up today Time-codes: 00:00:20 - Introduction of guests and the topic by Dr. John Vervaeke 00:01:18 - Christopher Mastropietro's reading from Buber's 'I and Thou' 00:02:06 - Discussion on the 'I-Thou' relationship 00:04:00 - Guy Sengstock's insights on vulnerability and transformative encounters 00:08:48 - Importance of openness in dialogical relationships 00:09:20 - Dr. Vervaeke challenges the Cartesian model of development 00:11:00 - Amplifying the significance of dialogical relationships in personhood 00:13:23 - Exploration of dialogical relationships beyond interpersonal interactions 00:23:29 - Discussion on the value of environment and art in 'I-Thou' relationships 00:24:40 - Contrast between 'I-it' and 'I-I' relationships 00:27:06 - Concept of 'I-thou' relationships in relation to an end in themselves 00:29:20 - Dr. Vervaeke's insights on the arrow of relevance realization 00:31:00 - Exploring person constituting and Dialogos participation 00:38:40 - Dr. Vervaeke's question on Socrates as a sage and Buber as a prophet 00:42:00 - The intentional difficulty in philosophical styles to foster dialogue 00:44:00 - Effect of intentional difficulty in promoting understanding 00:45:58 - Difference between texts and tests 00:53:25 - The virtue of discerning voices and Socratic daimonion 00:57:06 - The metaxu relationship in 'I-thou' context  01:00:04 - The virtue of discernment and virtuous relationship with the 'thou' 01:01:06 - Importance of risk in unfolding relationships

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