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“Taking ethics seriously, and enjoying the process” by kuhanj

05 Oct 2025

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Here's a talk I gave at an EA university group organizers’ retreat recently, which I've been strongly encouraged to share on the forum. I'd like to make it clear I don't recommend or endorse everything discussed in this talk (one example in particular which hopefully will be self-evident), but do think serious shifts in how we engage with ethics and EA would be quite beneficial for the world. Part 1: Taking ethics seriously To set context for this talk, I want to go through an Our World in Data style birds-eye view of how things are trending across key issues often discussed in EA. This is to help get better intuitions for questions like “How well will the future go by default?” and “Is the world on track to eventually solve the most pressing problems?” - which can inform high-level strategy questions like “Should we generally be doing more [...] ---Outline:(00:32) Part 1: Taking ethics seriously(04:26) Incentive shifts and moral progress(05:07) What is incentivized by society?(07:08) Heroic Responsibility(11:30) Excerpts from Strangers drowning(14:37) Opening our eyes to what is unbearable(18:07) Increasing effectiveness vs. increasing altruism(20:20) Cognitive dissonance(21:27) Paragons of moral courage(23:15) The monk who set himself on fire to protect Buddhism, and didn't flinch an inch(27:46) What do I most deeply want to honour in this life?(29:43) Moral Courage and defending EA(31:55) Acknowledging opportunity cost and grappling with guilt(33:33) Part 2: Enjoying the process(33:38) Celebrating what's really beautiful - what our hearts care about(42:08) Enjoying effective altruism(44:43) Training our minds to cultivate the qualities we endorse(46:54) Meditation isnt a silver bullet(52:35) The timeless words of MLK--- First published: October 4th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gWyvAQztk75xQvRxD/taking-ethics-seriously-and-enjoying-the-process --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. ---Images from the article:Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

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