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LIFTS Episode 97 - How Gyms Can Stop Chasing Gadgets and Start Healing People with Dr. Sean Pastuch
09 Nov 2025
In this episode of the LIFTS Podcast, Matthew Januszek and Mohammed Iqbal sit down with Dr. Sean Pastuch, founder of Active Life, to challenge the industry's obsession with recovery rooms and redefine what it truly means to treat fitness as healthcare. From debunking lazy innovation to outlining a blueprint for gyms that prioritize people over gadgets, this conversation reimagines how fitness professionals can become the front line of real health transformation. Key topics include: • Why recovery rooms are the 'lazy man's innovation.' • The economics and illusion of retention in gyms. • How trainers can evolve into healthcare professionals. • The difference between preventative and responsive fitness. • How to attract and develop high-value trainers. • When AI should, and shouldn't-- replace human judgment. • Why fitness must specialize like medicine to truly grow. 👉 To learn more about Dr. Sean Pastuch, click here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanpastuch/ 👉 To get Sean's ebook "Turn Pro" for free, click here: pro.activelifeprofessional.com/turnpro-free Support fitness industry news by sponsoring future LIFTS episodes. Contact us at [email protected] for advertising opportunities. Subscribe on YouTube and turn on notifications so you never miss a new video: https://www.youtube.com/user/EscapeFitness 🛒 Shop gym equipment: https://escapefitness.com/shop 📘 View our full catalog: US – https://escapefitness.com/support/catalog UK – https://escapefitness.com/support/catalogue Follow Escape Fitness on social media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Escapefitness Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/escapefitness Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/escapefitness LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/escapefitness/ 00:00 Intro & Tribute to Rick Caro 02:19 The Recovery Movement & Industry Data 05:00 Are Gyms Investing in the Wrong Things? 10:43 What the 'Wellness Industry' Really Includes 13:19 Retention, Training, and Investment Priorities 17:29 Who Actually Needs Recovery? 23:32 Fitness as Healthcare Explained 27:01 Why Physical Therapy Isn't Enough 30:12 Developing Great Trainers 33:03 Targeting the Right Clients 36:29 Specialization and Industry Evolution 39:08 What Belongs in a Modern Gym 41:22 The Role of AI and Technology 43:50 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts
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