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Ethical Schools

The pioneers: Democracy front and center (Part One)

25 Oct 2025

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We speak with Deborah Meier and Jane Andrias, pioneers in the democratic small-school movement. Debbie founded the Central Park East Schools. Jane Andrias was an art teacher and principal at Central Park East I. Debbie and Jane discuss these ground-breaking schools, their ethical foundations, the “habits of mind” they worked to instill, and the challenges they faced. *This is Part One of a two part episode.  Overview00:00-00:43 Intros 00:43-01:52 What would a school fully focused on preparing students for a democraticsociety look like? 01:52-03:08 Impacts of curriculum and school environment 03:08-05:40 Students’ voice in what they are learning 05:40-11:01 Democratic, progressive, ethical schools: are they synonymous? 11:01-18:32 Examples of ethical dilemmas and decisions 18:32-22:07 Negative effects of tracking and what the alternatives look like 22:07-24:19 Building long-term trust 24:19-26:05 Including all school staff members in decision-making and obstacles 26:05-29:57 Including parents and studentsTranscriptClick here to see the full transcription of this episode. References Here's a list of all the books written by Deborah Meier.  Click here to know more about the CPESS documentary and other initiatives by Deborah Meier and Jane Andrais. https://youtu.be/lgehMroRLnsSoundtrack by Poddington Bear

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