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Ethical Schools

The pioneers: Democracy front and center (Part Two)

14 Nov 2025

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We speak with Deborah Meier and Jane Andrias, pioneers in the democratic small-school movement. Debbie founded the Central Park East Schools. Jane Andrias was an art teacher and principal at Central Park East I. Debbie and Jane discuss these ground-breaking schools, their ethical foundations, the “habits of mind” they worked to instill, and the challenges they faced. *This is Part Two of a two part episode. Go back one episode or click here to listen to the first part. Overview00:00-00:41 Intros 00:41-07:30 Parent involvement 07:30-12:05 What happened to Mission Hill? 12:05-23:04 Survival of innovative, democratic schools;  What do we have education for? Education and democracy 23:04-24:45 Justice and fairness 24:45-26:37 Community service; connections to the adult world 26:37-29:37 Choices schools make based on what they value 29:37-36:46 Documentary about impact of CPESS on graduates’ lives 36:36-38:39 Human capital 38:39-40:57 Need funding for the documentary 40:57-42:41 Films and TV about the schools 42:41- Outro  TranscriptClick here to see the full transcription of this episode. References Here's a list of all the books written by Deborah Meier.  Click here to know more about the CPESS documentary and other initiatives by Deborah Meier and Jane Andrais. https://youtu.be/lgehMroRLnsSoundtrack by Poddington Bear

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