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Experts of Experience

The Big AI Lie & Why You Still Don’t Feel Ready

02 Apr 2025

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Consequence scanning. Data organization. Tech translation… Oh my! This week, Kerry Bodine — CX consultant to name brand fortune 500 companies, founder of Bodine & Co. and co-author of Outside In — joins us to explore the seismic shifts AI is bringing to the world of CS. Forget what you think you know about customer service; Kerry reveals why it's all about understanding customer emotions, perceptions, and the entire customer journey. We tackle the tough questions: How do we balance innovation with ethical considerations? How do we prepare our data for the AI revolution? And how do we design experiences that are both human and AI-powered? This is a must-listen for any leader navigating the uncharted territory of AI-driven customer experience.  Key Moments:  00:00 Who is Kerry Bodine, Founder of Bodine & Co.?03:19 The Biggest CS Mistake06:22 Perception vs. Reality: Bridging the Expectation Gap13:07 Consequence Scanning: Your AI Framework18:00 AI Risk Assessment & Navigating Ethical Gray Areas20:00 Leadership in the Age of AI25:05 Data Readiness for AI Implementation32:36 Human-Centered Design & Confronting Your Silos37:18 Key Advice for CS Leaders  –Are your teams facing growing demands? Join CX leaders transforming their AI strategy with Agentforce. Start achieving your ambitious goals. Visit salesforce.com/agentforce Mission.org is a media studio producing content alongside world-class clients. Learn more at mission.org

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0.109 - 5.977 Kerry Bodine

It doesn't matter what you think. All that matters is what your customers think.

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6.598 - 15.209 Lauren Wood

In the world of customer experience, Carrie Bodine Stanz is one of the most influential voices shaping how businesses connect to their customers.

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15.649 - 26.075 Kerry Bodine

I don't think most organizations are understanding just how big the data lift is going to be to create all of these magical AI systems.

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26.235 - 30.397 Lauren Wood

We literally have AI employees on our team doing things.

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30.677 - 39.422 Kerry Bodine

This is leadership in the age of AI. One of the tools that we are teaching is a framework called consequence scanning.

39.682 - 41.663 Lauren Wood

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

41.864 - 53.432 Kerry Bodine

They basically said we're not responsible for the answers that our chatbot provides. That's completely ridiculous. It went to court and now it is on the books that, yes, you are responsible.

57.23 - 78.057 Lauren Wood

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Experts of Experience. I'm your host, Lauren Wood. What happens when companies stop treating customer experience as a checkbox and start treating it as their competitive advantage? In the world of customer experience, Carrie Bodine Stans is one of the most influential voices shaping how businesses connect to their customers.

78.777 - 95.74 Lauren Wood

She's the co-author of Outside In, a book that has helped many, many businesses reshape how they think about customer experience. She's the founder of Bodine & Co., where she works with Fortune 500 brands and beyond to design more human and customer-centric experiences.

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