New Yorker staff writer Sarah Stillman says she's discovered dozens of cases where people in county jails across the U.S. have died of starvation, dehydration, or related medical crises. Many were people with mental health issues arrested for minor crimes who languished behind bars without treatment, unable to make bail.Also, we remember renowned jazz critic and Terry Gross' husband, Francis Davis.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Chapter 1: What is the issue of starvation in American jail cells?
This is Fresh Air. I'm Dave Davies. Nobody wants to go to jail or see a loved one taken there. They're crowded, unpleasant, and sometimes dangerous. But we generally expect that the incarcerated will get the basics—a bed and toilet, three meals a day, and health care.
But our guest, New Yorker staff writer Sarah Stillman, begins her latest article with the story of a woman in her 60s who died of protein calorie malnutrition, the apparent result of prolonged starvation during her four-month stay at a Tucson, Arizona jail. Stillman finds that starving in jail is far more common than you might think.
The victims are often mentally ill people who were arrested for minor crimes and then languish behind bars, untreated and unable to make bail. Lawyers and activists say the problem has increased with the practice of counties granting contracts to private companies to provide health care to the incarcerated.
Stillman interviewed many surviving relatives and reviewed countless records of disturbing cases for her article titled Starved in Jail. In addition to her work for The New Yorker, Sarah Stillman teaches journalism at Yale, where she also runs the Yale Investigative Reporting Lab.
Stillman won the 2024 Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Reporting for her article about the little-known but widely used legal doctrine of felony murder. That's a subject we'll get to a little later. Well, Sarah Stillman, welcome to Fresh Air. You open your story about starvation with the case of Mary Faith Casey, a woman in her 60s who's arrested—
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Chapter 2: Who was Mary Faith Casey and what happened to her in jail?
and taken to a county jail after something that I guess was a parole violation, technically a failure to register her address, something relatively minor. Before we get to what happened there, just tell us something about her life before she entered the Pima County Jail.
Well, Mary, like many of the people I wrote about for this piece, was a very vibrant and very loved person. She had a life with two kids who she loved dearly. She was always the kind of very nurturing mother who would sew their Halloween costumes by hand. And at some point as she got older, she developed some serious mental health issues and slid into addiction.
I think it's a story that many, many people can relate to. And shockingly, by the time she was in her 60s, she often found herself unhoused. And she actually wound up in the Pima County Jail because of a probation violation tied essentially to being unhoused because she had to register her address and she didn't have one.
And what were her diagnoses?
She had struggled with schizophrenia and she had a diagnosis also of bipolar disorder. So very common things that so many families struggle with.
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Chapter 3: How does mental illness contribute to the problem of starvation in jails?
Her children and siblings had struggled to get her help through mental illness and homelessness and previous arrests over the years. Very difficult, of course. And you describe in this piece her son Carlin driving to the hospital where she had finally been taken after about four months in this county jail. What did he see when he entered this hospital and saw his mom in a bed?
Yeah, her son Carlin was completely shocked. He saw a woman who looked utterly different than when he had last seen her just a few months before. She was essentially just, as he described it, skin and bones. She was extremely thin. She was wearing a diaper.
She just was unrecognizable and looked like she had aged many years, which, of course, prompted the question for him of, like, what on earth happened to you? And he decided he was going to investigate and try to get to the bottom of it.
And generally speaking, what did they learn about her experience in those four months in the jail?
So they really started digging into the jail conditions. And what they found is that many people who have mental health disorders, including Mary, when they're put in these kinds of conditions, they become really terrified and sometimes have fears that their jailers are trying to poison them and they cease to eat.
And so Mary, although when she had arrived, she had immediately articulated that she is someone who needs psychiatric medications, at least as far as we understand it from the documents. But she didn't receive those, didn't receive at the start any chance to see a psychiatrist or get the kind of treatment that she needed and waited quite some time for that.
Again, mind you, she's waiting there actually pre-trial, like the vast majority of the people that arrived. I reported on for this piece and wound up not being brought to many of her jail hearings because of the fact that she had psychologically decompensated, which was actually how this piece was initially pitched to me.
The attorneys had brought it to me saying many, many people are being deprived of their civil rights by virtue of the fact that they're being detained pre-trial for things they haven't even yet been found guilty of and then not being brought to their court hearings because they're They're having mental health issues that they're not being treated for in the jail.
And so people in the jail are determining that they can't even bring them to the hearing to get them out. Because so many of these people had charges that ultimately would have been dropped, as was ultimately the case for Mary when a judge saw her months later looking emaciated.
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Chapter 4: What is the history of mental health care and incarceration in the U.S.?
It's not surprising to hear that that is not a way to mentally heal.
Now, another big part of this story is the privatization of healthcare, generally including mental healthcare in correctional institutions. You know, it's not so easy to treat people with these difficult and often, you know, multiple diagnosis, even in a good clinical setting. What drove this trend towards having private companies come in to manage healthcare for the incarcerated?
I think there are a lot of factors there. One is just a big sweeping trend in American life to increasingly privatize services that might fundamentally be public ones. And I think the provision of actual care, mental health care and medical care in jails is a good example of where introducing a profit motive can be problematic. I mean, I've come to view it as quite complicated.
I don't think it's as simple as many of the people who work on this have told me. It's not as simple as just eliminating privatization from the sphere and everything would be fine. I mean, I don't think county sheriffs are terribly well incentivized either to provide really quality mental health care, even though our communities are incentivized to have that.
Because, you know, if we actually treated this moment as a chance for public health intervention instead of as a chance to incarcerate, I think the outcomes for communities would be good. But in the context of the privatization process,
A lot of what many of the lawyers I spoke to have argued is that they've seen the way the contracts are constructed as contracts that have essentially a capped cost so that any further money they spend on care of incarcerated people becomes money out of their own pocketbook. You can imagine how that would incentivize things like the tremendous understaffing I saw while reporting on this issue.
Now, in Pima County, Arizona, which was where Mary Casey was incarcerated, the health care was provided by a company called Neff Care. Am I saying that correctly? And her children decided they wanted to have a lawyer look into the possibility of litigation. And when they went to this firm who'd done this work, they said, yeah, we're familiar with them.
What did they tell them about their practices and results over the years?
Well, the law firm to whom they went, they had sued this company before, as have many others, because there's been quite a range of jail deaths tied to negligence as well as other kinds of medical health crises. In fact, just in this past month, there was a big settlement reached in regard to someone in a Washington state jail who basically had his leg cut.
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Chapter 5: How has privatization affected healthcare in county jails?
And many of these companies have been providing care in instances where there was actually deaths of pretty astonishing neglect.
One detail kind of stuck out to me when the attorneys looked at Mary Casey's experience at this jail and they looked at the intake form when she was admitted to the prison and what was missing. Tell us about that.
Yeah, in her intake form, there was supposed to be, as the lawyers saw it, a space for the medication she'd previously been on. And she did articulate her need for those, but simply just didn't see a mental health provider in a timely fashion. And she's not, of course, the only one at that jail who needed such services.
A lot of those positions went unstaffed for basically the majority of time that Mary was in the jail. And I should say, too, the lawyers who are representing the family, they had worked on many of these cases.
And a lot of them involved much younger people, like literally in one case, an 18-year-old, Mark Moreno, whose story really stood out to me because it was really a story of how we criminalize people for their mental health issues instead of providing the treatment at the front end. This was a young kid whose father had actually taken him to a local mental health clinic.
During the midst of a serious episode, Mark had been like talking to angels and was clearly in the throes of something. And instead of receiving treatment there, what happened is that he was turned over to police who were supposed to take him to the hospital. And instead, they found that he had two misdemeanor warrants for traffic violations.
And based on those misdemeanor warrants, he was instead taken to the county jail where he wound up dying eight days later of dehydration. So it could happen not just to someone like Mary in her 60s, but also to teenagers, multiple teenagers.
You write that there are hundreds of hours of abusive neglect captured on video and preserved in these cases, many of which you reviewed. What did you see?
Well, one of the lawyers did warn me in sending me a video. He said, you know, this will stain your brain. And that was an accurate statement for sure. I mean, it was the kind of slow motion harm that is just unlike anything I've seen before. Just watching people who are in very profound distress, sometimes seeking help and not receiving it.
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Chapter 6: What examples illustrate neglect and abuse in jails?
I mean, I have to be honest, when they brought me this story, I thought, I don't know if this is where I really want my mind to be. And then I really thought, I don't want to live in a world where we don't care and notice and take the time to document and listen when this has happened to someone. And sadly, it's not just someone. It turns out it's a great many people.
Right. You say that after years of studying these deaths, you find it hard to describe as anything but a pattern of widespread torture of people with mental health issues. That's strong language, but it's more akin to what we see in situations of torture than situations of incarceration.
You know, I think I can stand behind that 100 percent and I wish I couldn't. But the sad thing, having seen so many of these videos and looked so closely at these cases, I think what I've seen again and again is that in some of them it actually was ruled homicide because of that specific type of long scale neglect.
Every day someone was coming in and noticing this person hadn't had a drink of water. In some cases, in cases that were found homicides, the people actually at the jail had shut the water off to the cell. I mean, I'm thinking about a young man named Keaton Ferris. He grew up right near where my parents live. My parents live on Orcas Island off the coast of Washington State.
It's a really beautiful place. And Keaton really loved it. He always was writing on social media about his love of the ocean and of nature. And then he wound up in a jail in the midst of a mental health crisis where the jail officials actually cut the water off to his cell for four days.
And in his case, ultimately, the sheriff did apologize when he died to the family, but they had to protest immediately. for almost every day outside the jail. And there's a big community movement kind of speaking up about this in his case, but also a great many others.
You know, an important element of holding jailkeepers and private health providers accountable is maintaining records of treatment and making them available to investigators. What was your experience in seeking public records about these cases?
Well, in a shocking number of the lawsuits, records were actively destroyed. In some cases, judges found in regard to some of the companies that records had not just been accidentally discarded, but there were problems with the choice to not retain records, even in the context of litigation where a teenager had died. And so that was a major issue I found.
And then even just trying to get the basics on like who's dying in jails and of what, we found that often when we asked for records, first of all, the jails don't keep good records on the specific category of death. The categories often we found were people were said to have had a quote unquote natural death.
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Chapter 7: How are deaths in jails classified and what challenges exist in public records?
And it turned out that firm alone had actually taken on a bunch of starvation and dehydration death cases. So, yeah, that was a complete shock to me that there were so many cases to uncover. So many more I still haven't uncovered.
You know, you worked with the Yale Investigative Reporting Lab and identified, you write, more than 20 private companies providing care in jails where alleged deaths from neglect occurred. I'm wondering what you heard from those companies, particularly NAFCARE, which was the provider in the case of Mary Casey, the woman that you write so much about.
Well, I really, really respected that the head of that company, Brad McLean, was willing to talk with me.
And I thought he made some really important arguments about the fact that he does seem to believe that it's important that people get mental health care in their communities first before they're even sent to jail and that they provide it once they're in jail and actually have the resources to do so. I think what's devastating is that it's just hard to look at so many instances where this
did happen, again, not just with NAFCARE, but also many other companies. And also some counties that didn't privatize also had these deaths. And so it's sometimes hard to figure out how to bridge the disconnect between the rhetoric around the care we as a society want to provide and the rhetoric many of these corporations say they are committed to providing and then
I'm seeing these outcomes in what I recognize is a very, very, very hard environment in which to do this work, because, again, I think that's the fundamental core problem here is the wrong decision to be criminalizing people for their mental health issues and keeping them detained far too long pretrial.
You know, you make the point that cash bail is an important part of this. I mean, when people can't make bail to get out of jail, if they have mental health issues, it's going to get worse. And particularly if they're denied medications and treatment will get worse quickly and continue to get worse. There are some states that have experimented with eliminating this. I think New Jersey.
Do they have better records as this issue goes?
Because, again, the record-keeping is so bad to begin with on this type of death, I think we don't really have clear data on that. But I think what we do know is that a wealth-based detention system fundamentally ends up discriminating against people not on the basis of anything other than their wealth.
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Chapter 8: Why were lawyers interested in this story and what legal issues does it raise?
A neighbor called the police, and Sadiq was actually arrested and placed in handcuffs. And he thought that would be that. And it turned out his friend had been around the corner in his vehicle and had tried to flee the scene when the cops arrived.
And he wound up being chased in a high-speed chase by law enforcement and ultimately miles away from where Sadiq was wound up tragically hitting and killing two bicyclists. And it turned out that Sadiq then wound up being prosecuted on two counts of first-degree murder, which it's important to note in Florida carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole.
So that is ultimately what Sadiq was convicted of.
So the title of your article is Sentenced to Life for an Accident Miles Away. So Sadiq was in handcuffs, but the guy who he had robbed cars with fled and killed these two bike lists in a car accident. And he was arrested and charged with felony murder. And as is typical in these cases, Wright was offered a plea deal.
This is something I gather that is more attractive to prosecutors about felony murder. It allows them to exert more pressure on a defendant.
Exactly. So he really believed he was innocent of the charge of murder. He immediately accepted that he had done a wrong thing by taking from the unlocked cars. So he pled guilty on that charge, which in Florida actually did carry, I believe it was something like 25 years or something of the sort. So it was already a quite lengthy sentence there.
And he thought, OK, I'll take the other part of this, the murder part, to trial. But it turned out he didn't realize the way felony murder works. It actually meant that the judge basically said, my hands are tied. Like, you, you know, pled to this felony. And that means that you are de facto guilty of first degree murder, since that's the way the felony murder doctrine works in Florida.
So the judge in the sentencing stage said, really, I don't think there's anything I can do. You just are going to be sentenced to life in prison without parole.
You know, one of the remarkable things about this story and this use of felony murder is that the son of one of the bicyclists actually felt that Sadiq Baxter had been treated unfairly. Tell us that story.
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