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Fresh Air

The Political Battle For The Bros

20 Mar 2025

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Popular podcasts in the "manosphere" helped sway young men to go MAGA in the 2024 election. New Yorker writer Andrew Marantz explains how Democrats can win them back.Also, Ken Tucker shares songs by Neil Young, Benjamin Booker and Teddy Swims.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.249 - 14.037 Tanya Mosley

This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. California Governor Gavin Newsom recently joined the Manosphere, the world of political podcasts, streams, and YouTube channels where young men have become the new MAGA vanguard.

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22.401 - 32.322 Gavin Newsom

This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Steve Bannon. And this is Michael Savage. And this is Charlie Kirk.

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35.478 - 49.53 Tanya Mosley

The Democratic governor says the purpose of his new podcast is to have unfiltered conversations with people he doesn't always agree with. And so far, he's had on far-right media stars, many of whom were instrumental in Donald Trump winning the election.

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49.55 - 60.219 Tanya Mosley

Well, my guest today, The New Yorker staff writer Andrew Morantz, looks at how Democrats are attempting to win back the support of young men in America, those they lost during the 2024 election.

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61.86 - 76.446 Tanya Mosley

And for his piece, Morantz spent time with several high-profile podcasters and streamers, like Hasan Piker, a leftist star on the livestream platform Twitch with more than 3 million followers, who's known for modeling modern masculinity with progressive politics.

77.086 - 88.111 Tanya Mosley

Morantz's article, The Battle for the Bros, Young Men Have Gone MAGA, Can the Left Win Them Back?, appears in the current copy of The New Yorker. And Andrew Morantz, welcome back to the show.

88.531 - 90.212 Andrew Marantz

Thank you so much, Tanya. So good to be back.

91.155 - 113.228 Tanya Mosley

Yeah. So as we just heard so far, California Governor Gavin Newsom has had on a couple of right-wing notables, including activist Charlie Kirk, who is the founder and president of the right-wing student organization Turning Point USA. And I actually want to play a clip from that particular interview. Kirk had just finished an event at the University of Southern California.

113.368 - 125.38 Tanya Mosley

And for the first few minutes of the podcast, Governor Newsom talks with him about how his niece and son both know Kirk, and how his son was especially excited that Kirk would be on Governor Newsom's show. Let's listen.

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