Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Rivlin says regulation can help control how AI is used: "AI could be an amazing thing around health, medicine, scientific discoveries, education ... as long as we're deliberate about it." He spoke with Dave Davies about some of his fears about artificial intelligence. His book is AI Valley. Also, Maureen Corrigan reviews Karen Russell's new Dust Bowl-era epic, The Antidote.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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This is Fresh Air. I'm Dave Davies. For decades, scientists have dreamed of computers so sophisticated they could think like humans and worried what might happen if those machines began to act independently. Those fears and aspirations accelerated in 2022 when a company called OpenAI released its artificial intelligence chatbot called ChatGPT.
Our guest veteran investigative reporter Gary Rivlin has burrowed deep into the AI world to understand the plans and motivations of those pushing artificial intelligence and what impact they could have for good or ill. In his new book, Rivlin writes that in March of 2023, there were more than 3,000 startup companies in the U.S.
working on artificial intelligence, with new ones popping up at a rate of 30 per day. While AI is already in use in some fields, such as medical diagnosis, many believe the field is on the verge of a new breakthrough, achieving artificial general intelligence, systems that truly match or approximate human cognitive abilities.
Some believe it could be as transformational to human society as the Industrial Revolution. But many fear where it may take us. A poll of AI researchers in 2022 found that half of them believe there's at least a 1 in 10 chance that humanity will go extinct due to our inability to control AI.
In 2023, President Joe Biden issued an executive order imposing some regulatory safeguards on AI development. But President Trump quickly repealed that order upon taking office, saying Biden's dangerous approach imposed unnecessary government control on AI innovation. We've invited Gary Rivlin here to help us understand all these issues and developments.
Rivlin has worked for the New York Times, among other publications, and published 10 previous books. In 2017, he shared a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the Panama Papers. His new book is AI Valley, Microsoft, Google, and the Trillion Dollar Race to Cash in on Artificial Intelligence. Well, Gary Rivlin, welcome back to Fresh Air. Thanks for having me. Let's just start with a couple of basics.
You know, we're used to computers being very smart. I mean, way back in 2011, Siri appeared on Apple products. What distinguishes artificial intelligence from just smart computers?
You know, there's this sense out there that in 2022, we suddenly had artificial intelligence. It's been much, much more gradual than that. You know, Google has been using machine learning artificial intelligence since the 2000s, you know, to decipher imprecise Google searches, to figure out how much to charge for the various ads they throw on the system.
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