President Trump's sweeping tariff policy has upended the global economy. Zanny Minton Beddoes, the editor-in-chief of The Economist, likens it to The Art of the Deal — on steroids.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross. I follow the news pretty carefully, but it used to be that when I'd come across an article about tariffs or free trade, I'd give myself permission to skip over it. I assumed it might be boring and that I wouldn't understand it even if I read it. But now, now, Trump's tariffs are high drama.
They've upended world markets, and it feels essential to understand their impact on the U.S. and the global economy, how they might have a long-term effect on U.S. relations with our allies and adversaries, and how they'll affect consumer prices and our savings.
Here to help me and you better understand what's happening is a journalist who's been covering economic issues for years and recently returned from a reporting trip to China. Zannie Minton-Beddoes is the editor-in-chief of The Economist. She previously was the magazine's business editor and economics editor and is a former economist for the International Monetary Fund.
We recorded our interview yesterday morning. Trump's tariffs went into effect at midnight, and this afternoon, as I record this introduction, he's put a 90-day pause on most of the tariffs, but not China's. But who knows what will happen later today?
Our interview is about the context and possible consequences of the tariffs, so it will be helpful in understanding the news, whatever twists and turns the story takes. Zannie Minton-Biddles, welcome back to Fresh Air. Thank you for having me.
If Trump were to say, oops, my mistake, I didn't intend my beautiful tariffs to tank the global economy, let's call the whole thing off and put things back exactly like they were, would the markets likely recover quickly, even if he did that?
I'm sure there would be a recovery rally, but I don't think the uncertainty that he's created would go away. I think we've crossed some kind of a Rubicon in the last week or so, and we're not going to go back to the world as it was before. What do you mean by that?
Well, you know, President Trump has for decades said that he believes in tariffs and he has said that he feels that the global trading system is unfair to America. It's a very long held belief of his. So this whole tariff action of the last week hasn't kind of come out of nowhere. He really believes this.
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