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#861 - Dr Marissa Harrison - The Dark Psychology Of Female Serial Killers

Thu, 07 Nov 2024

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Dr Marissa Harrison is a psychologist, professor, researcher and an author. All the most infamous serial killers are men? But 1 in 6 serial killers are women - a group who have totally slipped under the radar. So who are these women? What are their motives and why haven’t we heard of them? Expect to learn why female serial killers are neglected in research, what the average demographic of a female serial killer is, who are the most likely victims of a female serial killer, why they kill, the methods they use and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get up to $50 off the RP Hypertrophy App at https://rpstrength.com/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM) Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period from Shopify at https://shopify.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Get a 20% discount on Nomatic’s amazing luggage at https://nomatic.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why is it particularly interesting to study female serial killers?

0.491 - 4.244 Chris Williamson

Why is it particularly interesting to study female serial killers?

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5.322 - 29.828 Dr. Marissa Harrison

I think it's interesting because there seems to be this preconceived notions that all serial killers operate the same way. And when we think of a serial killer, we think of, in the United States at least, Ted Bundy or Ed Kemper. We think about monstrous males who commit sex crimes. And female serial killers might be monstrous per some people's definitions, but they tend to be more low-key.

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29.868 - 42.652 Dr. Marissa Harrison

They tend to poison people. They tend to kill for money and power. versus male serial killers tend to kill for sex. So there are profound sex differences. So I think it's interesting to bring that to public attention.

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43.592 - 60.198 Chris Williamson

Right. So you're like a promoter of females. Not a promoter, not quite saying that they're good, but just maybe a little bit more attention should be paid. Why have they been so neglected beyond the fact that maybe the way that they kill is less extravagant?

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61.509 - 83.504 Dr. Marissa Harrison

I agree with you. First, let me say, when I was writing the book, Just as Deadly, The Psychology of Female Serial Killers, I was thinking to myself, is this a feminist book? Because I'm saying women can do that too. And it's a really horrible argument of equality, but the thing is they can. Um, so you had asked why might people pay attention to males more so than females?

Chapter 2: What are the main differences between male and female serial killers?

84.164 - 103.642 Dr. Marissa Harrison

And I think there's this age old notion, and I'm certainly not the first person to say this, but I think there's this age old notion that women can't be damaging. Women can't be dangerous. Women are nurturing and caregivers, right? So if I said to you, grandma, you might think of, well, let me ask you this, Chris, what do you think of when you think of grandma?

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104.412 - 108.315 Chris Williamson

Soft, gentle, caring, mothering, sleepy.

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108.335 - 133.493 Dr. Marissa Harrison

Exactly. What if I told you about the giggling granny, Nanny Doss, who killed her mother, likely her sister, her, I think, three husbands, some of her grandchildren. And when they interviewed about it, she laughed. So that doesn't fit my schema of grandma. And she looked like a grandma, right? So what we might think a grandma would look like maybe...

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134.293 - 154.397 Dr. Marissa Harrison

I don't want to get in trouble for saying this, but, you know, maybe like an old-school 1950s housecoat in the kitchen, cooking bread, all that kind of stuff. And you wouldn't suspect that she would do these things. And I think that's why we are maybe not so quick to catch female serial killers, and we're really not so quick to think, yeah, she did that.

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154.717 - 157.817 Dr. Marissa Harrison

And I have some stories for you, if you would like, about that type of thing.

158.197 - 159.437 Chris Williamson

I would like, yes.

159.517 - 184.923 Dr. Marissa Harrison

Oh, my. So I get some really interesting... I can't say fan mail, but attention from Lucy Letby committed her crimes in the United Kingdom in Chester, right? Chester, England and Cheshire, United Kingdom. Lucy Letby was a neonatal nurse. She was a very skilled nurse. And she was convicted last year, 2023, of killing, I think it was seven infants.

185.606 - 210.014 Dr. Marissa Harrison

And I was asked to talk about that on some podcasts and some other interviews in the United Kingdom. Well, I got my share of colorful emails. I'm wrong. How could I ever be so stupid? They made fun of my American accent. Thank you. They said I must be in cahoots with The Crown. I'm like, the only time I'm making a deal with The Crown is when I'm binge-watching the series on Netflix.

211.615 - 235.488 Dr. Marissa Harrison

What I'm going by is the evidence that The Crown Prosecution Service presented that the jury convicted her on and that Justice Goss sentenced her by. And also Lucy fits some of the parameters of previous data of known female serial killers. So I'm just going by that. But I've gotten all kinds of emails and notes and Twitter posts and stuff that tell me all kinds of things about me. Yeah.

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