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#905 - William von Hippel - Why Modern Life Can Feel So Empty

20 Feb 2025

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William von Hippel is a psychologist, professor, and author. Modern life feels so complex that even basic emotions like happiness seem distant. Were we happier as hunter-gatherers, with more connection and autonomy? If so, how do these prehistoric needs shape our well-being today? Expect to learn if it would be helpful to return back to a simpler hunter & gather time of human evolution, why so many people struggle to be happy, why having autonomy is so important, what happiness research says about how well off hunter-gather tribes were, which forces shape autonomy and connection, why we worship individualism so much, why anxiety is the emotion de jour of the modern world, how to rebalance your own life, and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period from Shopify at https://shopify.com/modernwisdom Get a 20% discount & free shipping on Manscaped’s shavers at https://manscaped.com/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM20) Get the Whoop 4.0 for free and get your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.389 - 23.492 Chris Williamson

episode 41 was when you were last on the show and this will be 910 or something maybe so you've been busy yeah it was so have you uh but you've barbelled uh two ends of a half decade of of lots of content um so i was thinking i was just i just got back from a walk and i was thinking about your new book and

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24.093 - 42.171 Chris Williamson

And I had this sort of consideration in my mind, whether it would be useful for us to still have hunter gatherers living amongst us today, just to remind all of the modern humans about how good we've got it across human history, this sort of weird inequality reminder that would sort of be lingering there in the back of our minds.

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43.041 - 61.093 William von Hippel

Yeah, that would be awesome. I mean, not long ago, I remember ordering a pizza, and it came with barbecue sauce instead of tomato sauce on my meat lettuce pizza. And I was just devastated. I was like, how could this happen to me? And a couple of hunter-gatherers in our existence, and I would go, oh, who cares about my pizza, right?

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62.774 - 85.944 Chris Williamson

Yeah. So why, given the fact that obviously the joke that everybody hates to hear, I hate to hear it. I hate to be reminded of my opulent, bourgeois, luxurious, you know, 21st century life. But given the fact that living standards are objectively the best they've ever been, why is it that so many people are struggling to lead happy lives despite being relatively blessed? Yeah.

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86.633 - 103.197 William von Hippel

Yeah, that's the sort of shocking fact that got me started on this book. And I always thought it was everybody else. You know, I read this literature. I know it very well. Being wealthy doesn't make you happy. And I kind of admit I felt a little superior to wealthy people. And I thought, well, you know, here I am, just middle-class guy.

103.517 - 123.307 William von Hippel

If I were wealthy, I would be happier because I would appreciate what I have. I even remember visiting an old friend and just marveling at his inability to appreciate this extraordinary wealth that he'd accumulated since we were kids. But it wasn't until I was reading Frank Marlowe's wonderful book on the Hadza that I realized, you know, I'm just as bad as he is. We all are.

123.868 - 142.106 William von Hippel

We don't appreciate these amazing riches that we have. And if you think about them, you might say, well, what does it really matter that we have riches? you know, a fancier chair or something like that. But it's not just the trivial comforts. They, hunter-gatherers, buried almost half their children. You know, they lived in a world that was dangerous and uncomfortable and unpredictable.

142.326 - 159.82 William von Hippel

And we live in this world that's comfortable and safe and... And as an endless opportunities for entertainment, and yet we're not any happier than they were. And if you look at the literature, there's all sorts of bits and bobs of advice, you know, express, express gratitude, do these things. And those are all pretty good pieces of advice.

159.86 - 171.45 William von Hippel

They help in the moment, but it doesn't answer the question of how can we possibly not be happier than they are? And that's what got me started in about 10 years ago. And it took me that forever to figure out what I think might be an important part of the answer.

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