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How many hours a day are most people spending on their phones? How many times are they picking them up?
It's hard to get a firm answer on how many hours, but the best statistics I found range between four and six hours a day that people are spending on their phones. If you want to go for the middle number there, five hours a day, it adds up to about 75 days a year. It's really a shocking amount.
Yeah, I wonder what the comparison is, because that's presumably across a bunch of different age groups. So if you were to go under 30, I would guess that that number goes up. I would also guess that the hours of sleep would go down under that. I certainly know Luke, who is a good friend of mine and my tour manager. He regularly manages to double his sleep time with his screen time.
So he's 12 hours a day on phone, six hours of sleep.
Oh, that direction. I thought you were going the other healthier direction. No. Oh, that's not good. Does he need an intervention?
He's a club promoter. He's like patient zero for phone use. All of us are. So anybody that used to run Nightlight stuff, we basically were hardwired into WhatsApp. And it's very, very difficult to get rid of that. Maybe this is me just creating a... an excuse for myself.
But yeah, if you grew up being some sort of club promoter type person, you have maybe the worst neural networks possible for phone use. It's not good.
So that's a separate category. So you have like 18 to 29-year-olds, 29 to 40, and then you have like club managers. Correct.
It's a different species, technically. Yes, yes.
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