After hearing Dave's story in the previous episode and the profound similarity between his UFO experience in Ojai and his meditation at the Integratron, we wanted to learn more about the strange history of this building. But what started out as an effort to learn more about this place ended up turning into a bit of an adventure. In this episode, historian Daniel Paul joins to tell the story of The Integratron and the man who built it, George Van Tassel. Van Tassel was an aerospace engineer who became a UFO pioneer after claiming contact with extraterrestrials in California’s Mojave Desert. He lived under Giant Rock, a 7-story boulder in the desert where he operated an airstrip and café. His life’s work was the Integratron, a domed structure he built based on channeled communications with a group of aliens called the Council of Seven Lights —and, more specifically, an individual being named Solganda. After this interview, we traveled to the desert to meet a man named Don McKinney, who owns a massive archive of George's recordings, photos, and the original blueprints of the Integratron. If you want to hear about that trip and our effort to help Don preserve this archive, it will be available on the Otherworld Patreon next week. Daniel's Historical Proposal for The Integratron George Van Tassel's FBI File Check out our Merch Follow us on: Instagram, TikTok, Twitter For business inquiries contact: [email protected] If you have experienced something paranormal or unexplained, email us your story at [email protected] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. In the previous episode, we met a software engineer and musician named David who was camping in Ojai, California as a teenager when he had a terrifying experience with a UFO above his tent. He described not only seeing this craft, but the craft making an incredibly loud humming sound that resonated throughout his entire body.
He told me that he had never heard anything like it before, and he never heard anything like it after until years later when his girlfriend took him to a sound bath out in the desert near Joshua Tree at a place called the Integratron.
During the sound bath, the frequencies of the glass bowls being rung in this acoustic dome resonated throughout his body and instantly gave David vivid flashbacks to this experience he had as a teenager. He told me that it was the first time he had ever heard anything slightly similar to the sound that this UFO made.
And to make things weirder, when David left the sound bath, he learned that the building it was in was no ordinary building. It's called the Integratron, and it was built by an aerospace engineer named George Van Tassel, who claimed to have been given the instructions on how to build it by an extraterrestrial named Salgonda.
After the interview with David, I spent several months reaching out to the current owners of the Integratron in hopes of learning more about the history of the building. They declined. However, I eventually was introduced to Daniel Paul, and I immediately knew I had met the exact person I was looking for.
Daniel Paul is a historian, and he actually wrote the National Register of Historic Places landmark application for the Integratron. Not only that, he was fascinated by this building long before he was brought on to do that work. He's very passionate about the Integratron and the eccentric man who built it, George Van Tassel.
And it turns out the Integratron is just one part of a much larger story that is absolutely incredible and super strange. So, in this episode, I sit down with historian Daniel Paul to learn about the long, bizarre, and complicated history of the Integratron and George Van Tassel. This is episode 123, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is.
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