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Pod Save the World

Trump and Zelensky's Disastrous Meeting

01 Mar 2025

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Tommy and Ben discuss Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s disastrous meeting at the White House that erupted in a yelling match and resulted in Zelensky being told to leave. They dig into JD Vance’s role as instigator, the revealed motivations for attacking Zelensky in front of the press, and what Zelensky’s options are for pursuing peace from here. Get tickets to CROOKED CON November 6-7 in Washington, D.C at http://crookedcon.com

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96.605 - 114.436 Tommy Vietor

This was just us sort of reacting in real time to what we had just seen. We put it out initially as a YouTube exclusive, but we thought given the stakes of what happened and how poorly the meeting went, that it was important to release on RSS2 as a podcast. So here's the episode and thanks for listening to Pod Save the World. Welcome back to Pod Save the World. I'm Tommy Vitor. I'm Ben Rhodes.

114.876 - 134.268 Tommy Vietor

And we are doing a little YouTube exclusive episode today based off of President Zelensky's meeting with Donald Trump just now. We were going to plan to do this regardless. But Ben, I didn't expect it to be. The worst meeting ever in the Oval Office? I'm trying to think of an example of a meeting that went worse.

134.308 - 140.895 Tommy Vietor

I mean, there was the infamous Bibi Netanyahu-Obama meeting that you and I were both in the room for, but it was nothing even close to what just happened.

140.935 - 160.933 Ben Rhodes

Not even close, yeah. This is unlike anything that has taken place in my entire lifetime. And, you know... I'd have to mine my brain. I mean, I assume there were some tough meetings, you know, in the Civil War. But yeah, never, never. We've never seen anything like it. Yeah.

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