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Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast

The Secret Gay Preacher - The Ted Haggard story

03 Feb 2025

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This is the story of Ted Haggard

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So one day, this guy, his name's Ted, Ted decides he really wants to smash. With men. So Ted gets on the internet and he comes across a website where you can rent the services of a male escort. And he sees an ad for this beefcake. His name is Mike Jones. So Ted, he goes to a payphone, he hits up Mike Jones and they agree to meet.

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And soon enough, Ted is on his way to Mike's place and they end up smashing. And when it's over, he pays Mike $200. Sounds like a good deal. Here's the problem with all that. Ted isn't just some regular guy. Ted is actually married. To a woman. A woman who doesn't know he's out hooking up with male escorts. Ted is also a well-known Christian pastor of a megachurch.

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He's also president of the National Evangelicals Association and Time Magazine profiled him as one of the most influential religious leaders in America. He even talks regularly with President George W. Bush. So he's a very influential guy. Not to mention, Ted is also known to preach plenty of anti-gay rhetoric.

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98.989 - 104.677 Ted Haggard

One person enjoys sex with a sheep. Another person enjoys sex with a man. Is that where we want to be?

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Now, at this point, Ted could just confess to his wife or change his view on homosexuality. But that's not what Ted's gonna do. Because he really wants to smash with men. So instead he starts secretly hiring Mike Jones once a month for his escort services. While Mike Jones has no idea that Ted's the leader of a well-known anti-gay megachurch.

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And three years go by and Ted and Mike Jones are still meeting up at Mike's house once a month and secretly hooking up. But then, one morning, Mike's just lying around, he's watching the History Channel, and there's a show on where they're interviewing people about the Antichrist. And Ted appears on screen for a minute as a religious expert.

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And Mike sees him and he's like, oh hey, that's the guy I smash with every month. Und dann, am nächsten Morgen, geht Mike Jones zum Gym. Und er arbeitet. Und ich glaube, eine der TVs da ist auf einem christlichen TV-Kanal gesetzt. Und da, auf dem Bildschirm, sieht er Ted wieder. Er spricht zu einer ganzen Megachurch. Und Mike sieht es und er ist so, wer ist dieser Kerl?

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So he gets curious and he goes home and he starts looking Ted up. And he sees not only how powerful and influential of a man Ted is, but he also starts reading about some of Ted's anti-LGBTQ stances on things. And he sees how openly opposed to same-sex marriage Ted is. And this pisses Mike Jones right off. Because, you know, those are his people.

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