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Serial Killers

The Rugeley Poisoner Pt. 2

Mon, 07 Apr 2025

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Struggling with gambling and spiraling into debt, William Palmer turned to murder. This week, we continue analyzing the deaths Palmer was accused of, and how the scheming doctor was finally caught. Keep up with us on Instagram @serialkillerspodcast! Have a story to share? Email us at [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What warnings should listeners consider before playing this episode?

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This episode includes discussions of murder, child and infant loss and poisoning. Consider this when deciding how and when you'll listen. Walk into any room and you'll probably find someone in deep, deep debt. Maybe they're young and saddled with student loans, successful enough to take out a mortgage, or just love online shopping. Others have a car loan or had to finance a medical emergency.

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Chapter 2: Who is William Palmer and what is his connection to murder?

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It all has the same end result. A giant, scary number. Four figures, five figures, six figures. To pay it off, you need to make a plan and stick with it. Today's subject, William Palmer, had a plan, and he stuck with it, to the tune of possibly 10 murders. Welcome to Serial Killers, a Spotify podcast. I'm Janice Morgan.

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You might recognize me as the voice behind the investigative docuseries Broken and the true crime podcast Fear Thy Neighbor. I'll be your host for the next few weeks, and I'm thrilled to be here. We'd love to hear from you. Follow us on Instagram at Serial Killers Podcast and share your thoughts on this week's episode. Or if you're tuning in on the Spotify app, swipe up and leave a comment.

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This is our second episode on Dr. William Palmer, a man whose gambling problems spiraled into at least one murder. Palmer became infamous in the Victorian era, but was he a serial killer? Today, we'll continue looking into the suspicious deaths that surrounded Palmer, especially his own friends and family, and see how they compare to his known crime, the murder of John Cook. Stay with us.

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One of the boys started to exhibit demonic possession.

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Something very snake-like lifted its head out of the water.

Chapter 3: What suspicious deaths surrounded William Palmer's family?

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In this case, the first pregnancy between the two people is typically healthy. But during childbirth, the mother is exposed to the Rh protein in her baby's blood. This causes her to create antibodies. If she gets pregnant with an Rh-positive baby again, those antibodies can attack this second child during birth. This can lead to severe anemia and can be fatal without medical intervention.

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If Ann Palmer was Rh negative and William was Rh positive, it could explain why they only had one healthy child, followed by four who died in infancy. But of course, no one knew about Rh proteins in William Palmer's time, so it may have looked more suspicious than it was. There's just one caveat. Over the years, William Palmer had two illegitimate children.

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And those babies, who had two different mothers, also died in infancy. Their deaths were never investigated. Regardless of his guilt or innocence, Palmer's children's deaths would come back to haunt him. Because these tragedies weren't the last for the Palmers. In less than two years, two more members of Palmer's immediate family turned up dead.

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By September 1854, William Palmer found himself chased by tragedy. In the past five years, he'd lost his mother-in-law, his good friend, and four infant children. At least, that's how it looked from the outside. Multiple people, including the Palmer's housekeeper, believe he'd orchestrated some of those six deaths. Because at the time, he owed multiple creditors over 20,000 pounds.

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Today, that's worth millions. This made it nearly impossible to get out of the hole. But that didn't stop him from trying. By this point, Dr. Palmer had all but given up on his medical practice. His operating costs were too high. Perhaps he felt gambling had better odds than trudging along with his business.

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At the same time, he dug himself deeper into debt, taking out multiple life insurance policies on his wife, Anne. Anne was quite young and, by all accounts, healthy. Still, Palmer committed to outsized life insurance premiums, all on top of his existing debt. Around this time, Anne noticed that death seemed to follow her husband. She also likely observed his increasing financial desperation.

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Still, they remained married. It's likely she was dealing with her own grief over the loss of their four infants and busy raising their surviving son, William Jr. One night, Anne decided to attend a concert with Palmer's sister, Sarah. Perhaps she wanted a brief distraction from her ongoing grief. The pair traveled by carriage to Liverpool, about 80 miles northwest.

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The air was cool as they made their way through the fields and over the low hills. When the two arrived in Liverpool that evening, the hall was packed. Anne enjoyed the music. It was just what she needed. The next day, the pair returned to Rugeley. The morning after, Anne woke up feeling unusually tired. She experienced a low-grade fever and decided to spend the day in bed.

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Naturally, Palmer cared for Anne, cooking her food. However, Anne's condition only deteriorated. She was quick to vomit up the food Palmer made for her and fell gravely ill. Soon, Palmer called a doctor friend to assess Anne. Dr. Bamford came right away. Same Dr. Bamford who examined John Cook after he died and issued the questionable death certificate. Dr. Bamford asked Palmer what he'd observed.

Chapter 4: Could the deaths of Palmer's children be explained by medical causes?

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His inheritance was completely gone and his medical practice couldn't support him and his son. How could he support another child? Quite simply, fraud. Palmer started signing checks in his mother's name. However, it didn't take the creditors long to call Palmer out. They threatened to go after his mother for the money he'd borrowed, allegedly on her behalf.

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This stopped Palmer in his tracks, possibly because his mother still had money left over from his father's nest egg, and he didn't want to lose out on that inheritance when she died. But as debt collectors circled like vultures, his situation only grew more dire. If he couldn't come up with the necessary cash, he'd likely land in a debtor's prison.

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Despite years of gambling, his biggest payout had been Anne's life insurance policy. He might have wished he had taken out more policies or had someone else to insure. Because when his older brother Walter stumbled back into his life, Palmer concocted a new plan. In late December 1854, Dr. William Palmer needed a plan to repay his massive debts.

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Insurance from his wife's untimely death had wiped out about half of what he owed, and fraudulent checks in his mother's name kept him afloat. But with over 10,000 pounds lingering, Palmer was still in over his head. So he turned his attention to the rest of his family, namely his older brother, Walter. Five years earlier, Walter went bankrupt after his factory closed down.

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Then, Walter turned to alcohol. A few years later, Walter's wife left, and Walter kept drinking. When Palmer met his brother in Rugeley, he found Walter at the bottom of several bottles of liquor. Palmer later noticed that when Walter went too long without alcohol, he experienced severe tremors in his arms, possibly a sign of withdrawal caused by long-term alcohol misuse.

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At least, that's how Palmer interpreted it. After seeing his brother's tremors, Palmer believed that within a handful of years, Walter would die. And Palmer was always a betting man, so he conspired to get a life insurance policy on Walter. But there was a problem. Walter had to agree to it. So Palmer bribed him. He offered his brother 400 pounds cash and a place to live.

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When presented with this generous offer, Walter hesitated for a moment, understanding the morbid implications. But he needed the money and housing. He agreed to sign whatever forms his brother needed. To make sure his plan was foolproof, Palmer ensured that Walter stayed sober for a brief period, just enough time for his most significant tremors to vanish.

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Palmer worried that insurance companies wouldn't hand out a policy on someone with visible signs of alcohol addiction. But even with Walter momentarily sober, most insurance companies denied the request outright. Only one of the half-dozen companies Palmer visited, Prince of Wales Insurance, agreed in principle to the policy. They were the same company that had covered Ann Palmer's life insurance.

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The insurance company only requested that a local physician examine Walter first. So William Palmer called up a local acquaintance, Dr. Cornelius Waddell. Like with Dr. Bamford and John Cook's death certificate, it's unclear if Palmer made efforts to deceive Dr. Waddell or if he was in on the scheme, perhaps for a cut of the money.

Chapter 5: How did Palmer's financial troubles influence his alleged crimes?

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To make matters worse, the Prince of Wales Life Insurance Company also rejected Palmer's proposal for George Bates, and so did every other insurance company the trio tried. Palmer may have felt like he had one hope left, the racetrack. And that's what brought him to November 13, 1855, the fateful day at the races, when he murdered his friend, John Cook.

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Putting the pieces together in the wake of Cook's death, investigators believed they might be dealing with a serial killer. To find out, they'd have to go grave digging. Even though John Cook's autopsy in the fall of 1855 technically came out clean, not everyone was convinced he died of natural causes, especially because the person of interest was involved in the autopsy.

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Most unconvinced was John Cook's stepfather, Mr. Stevens. Stevens became a mosquito in the authorities' ear, pushing them to investigate William Palmer and even questioning locals himself. The more Stevens heard, the more it sounded like William Palmer was to blame, and a serial killer at that. Just to be clear, serial killer wasn't a common term yet.

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It would still be over 30 years before Jack the Ripper would terrorize London, and even longer before an FBI investigator coined the term. But Mr. Stevens, the authorities, and insurance companies did suspect William Palmer of multiple murders over a long period of time with the same motive.

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Within a week of John Cook's autopsy, the authorities exhumed the bodies of William Palmer's wife and his brother. The results of Ann Palmer's autopsy were limited. Her body had been buried for over a year, and much of her remains had decomposed. On top of that, strychnine doesn't stay in the human body long. It has a half-life of about 10 hours, so finding the poison was a long shot.

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Walter's corpse wasn't in much better shape for autopsy purposes. When examiners finally punched a hole into the thick, lead-lined casket, the room filled with the smell of death. His body was bloated and falling apart. Little information was gathered about Walter Palmer's cause of death, much to the delight of William Palmer, who still held out hope for his rejected insurance policy payout.

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But the lack of evidence didn't mean he was in the clear. Investigators took a leaf out of Mr. Stevens' book and went around rudely asking questions about Palmer. In the process, they too ran into many residents who had suspicions about the local doctor. One of them was Mr. Newton, the local pharmacy assistant. He recounted that he'd sold Palmer strychnine just before Cook died.

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The investigators' ears perked up. It was just the information they needed. In late 1855, the inquiry into Cook's death released their findings. They believed Palmer had killed John Cook with strychnine poison and suggested he be charged with murder. Shortly after, Palmer was arrested for Cook's murder. He was caught by surprise. He truly believed he'd gotten away with it.

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Authorities placed Palmer in a local jail while he awaited his day in court. In May 1856, William Palmer finally faced a trial, but not in Rugeley. It was believed Palmer wouldn't receive a fair trial in his hometown since he was quite well known. Up to this point, the accused in England had to be tried in their home county.

Chapter 6: What events led to the death of Anne Palmer and why is it suspicious?

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And now, finally, John Cook missing. Then, Mr. Newton testified that Palmer bought strychnine from him. The alleged murder weapon was in Palmer's possession. And that sealed the deal. After 12 days of testimony, the trial ended. The jury didn't even deliberate for a full day before convicting Dr. William Palmer of John Cook's murder. He was guilty. The judge sentenced Palmer to death.

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Palmer remained stone-faced. All of his scheming had landed him at death's door. And now, no amount of strategy or legal maneuvering was getting him out. On June 14th, 1856, guards grabbed Palmer out of his jail cell. They marched him towards the gallows outside of Stafford Prison. Palmer heard the sounds of a large crowd as he made his way to the platform.

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He mounted the steps, and a truly remarkable sight unfolded in front of him. Tens of thousands of people crowded around, awaiting his death. Authorities asked Palmer if he had any last words. To the audience's dismay, he had no speech prepared, though he meekly maintained his innocence. As Palmer walked over the trapdoor, legend has it that he asked if it was safe.

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Authorities placed a cover over Palmer's head before the noose came down. In the darkness, the crowd noise swelled. To Palmer, it might have sounded like he was at the horse races. Minutes later, William Palmer was pronounced dead. He was only convicted of killing one person, but his legend grew over the years. The Rugeley Poisoner is one of the most famous murder cases of the 19th century.

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Which brings us back to the big question in this case. Was Dr. William Palmer a serial killer? If you ask the people of Victorian England, the answer seems to have been a resounding yes. Though since this happened almost 200 years ago, we'll never know for sure.

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Everyone can make their own conclusions and at least rest easy in the fact that, regardless of the count of his crimes, Palmer was stopped when he was only 31 and received the maximum punishment. Thanks for tuning in to Serial Killers. We're here with a new episode every Monday. Be sure to check us out on Instagram, at Serial Killers Podcast, and we'd love to hear from you.

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So if you're tuning in on the Spotify app, swipe up and give us your thoughts. For more information on William Palmer, we found the contemporary publication, The Most Extraordinary Trial of William Palmer for the Rugeley Poisonings, which lasted 12 days.

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The book The Poisoner, a gripping account of the murders committed by Dr. William Palmer, the Prince of Poisoners, and his dramatic trial by Stephen Bates, and the book Staffordshire Murders by Alan Hayhurst, extremely helpful to our research. Stay safe out there.

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This episode was written by Robert Tyler Walker, edited by Maggie Admire, fact-checked by Bennett Logan, researched by Chelsea Wood, and video edited and sound designed by Spencer Howard. I'm your host, Janice Morgan.

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