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The Best (And Oldest) Tadpole Ever Discovered

Fri, 01 Nov 2024

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For years, we've been asking, "Which came first: the chicken or the egg?" Maybe what we should have been asking is, "Which came first: the frog or the tadpole?" A new paper in the journal Nature details the oldest known tadpole fossil. Ringing in 20 million years earlier than scientists previously had evidence of, this fossil might get us closer to an answer.Have another scientific discovery you want us to cover on a future episode? Email us at [email protected] — we might feature your idea on a future episode! Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What exciting discoveries are discussed in this episode?

81.446 - 87.709 Regina Barber

Yes, the squad. Okay, so there are three science stories that really caught our attention this week and we're really excited to share them with you.

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88.189 - 103.139 Emily Kwong

All right, what are they? We have two students that developed new mathematics for the Pythagorean theorem. Another one about how overripe fruit in the wild may have affected animal evolution. And finally, the discovery of a fossil that sheds new light on the life cycle of frogs.

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107.243 - 108.024 Elsa Chang

So cool.

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108.064 - 117.576 Regina Barber

This sounds like a very happy episode. It is. It is. We're here to be a mood booster. All of these stories on this episode of Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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131.283 - 135.206 Elsa Chang

All right, let's start with the students tackling the Pythagorean theorem. What's their story?

135.526 - 147.213 Regina Barber

Okay, so in 2022, two high school students shocked the math world by solving the Pythagorean theorem using trigonometry. And for doing this, Kelsey Johnson and Nakia Jackson earned keys to the city of New Orleans.

147.514 - 147.734 Kelsey Johnson

Whoa.

Chapter 2: What groundbreaking work did students do with the Pythagorean theorem?

147.994 - 164.96 Emily Kwong

And now they are published mathematicians. This week, Kelsey and Nakia published their work, Five proofs and a method for finding at least five more in the journal American Mathematical Monthly. It's super prestigious. And seeing the paper online, Kelsey started jumping up and down.

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165.301 - 174.323 Elsa Chang

It's really great to see it not just on my own laptop because that's where it's been for a very long time. Wait, how old are they now? They're sophomores in college.

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174.463 - 186.507 Elsa Chang

That's incredible. Yeah. Okay, can we just back up a little bit, though? Because the Pythagorean theorem, in case anyone needs a refresher course, it's about the three sides of a triangle that has one right angle, right?

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186.647 - 196.831 Regina Barber

Yeah, so over 2,000 years ago, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras figured out the equation a squared plus b squared equals c squared, right? Yes. To calculate the length of a right triangle.

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197.172 - 202.594 Elsa Chang

I mean, I still chant it in my sleep. It was drilled deep into my soul 35 years ago. Was that a math cheer? Amazing. Okay.

203.414 - 214.868 Emily Kwong

Yeah, that theorem has been proven again and again with geometry and algebra, but it was once thought impossible to do with trigonometry. Like only two other mathematicians had done it before Calci and Nakia.

215.028 - 220.875 Regina Barber

And that's because trigonometry is like based on the Pythagorean theorem. So it's tricky to use trigonometry to prove it.

221.635 - 224.318 Elsa Chang

Ah, I mean, this is kind of circular reasoning, right?

Chapter 3: How did Kelsey and Nakia change the math world?

224.598 - 236.669 Emily Kwong

Right. But Kelsey and Nakia proved it could be done. They actually developed five proofs in total. Wow. Little overachievers. Kelsey's particularly proud of the proof that involves this infinite series of little triangles, which looks like a waffle cone.

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236.729 - 241.433 Elsa Chang

Oh, yummy, yummy. So wait, what's next for these two math superstars?

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241.633 - 252.597 Emily Kwong

They're in college. Kelsey is studying environmental engineering at Louisiana State University, while Nakia is studying pharmacy at Xavier University. And Nakia had some advice for today's high schoolers. Finish what you start.

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252.837 - 262.801 Jack

I know there's moments where you're like, I don't want to do this for real. But in the long run, it might be something that could have mattered if you had just tried or kept with it.

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263.021 - 268.023 Regina Barber

And that's certainly true for her and Kelsey, who both wanted to thank their parents for all their support.

268.728 - 276.631 Elsa Chang

Oh, what good kids. I know. Good, good kids. All right. So let's move on. We're going to talk about overripe fruit. Animals eat this. I mean, I do.

276.772 - 282.594 Regina Barber

I mean, I do, too. Elsa, have you heard of something called the drunken monkey hypothesis?

283.094 - 285.915 Elsa Chang

No, but this makes me want to hang out with some drunk monkeys.

285.935 - 301.509 Emily Kwong

Same. Okay. The drunken monkey hypothesis suggests that our human interest in alcohol increases. Maybe due to the abundance of alcohol, especially ethanol, from all that rotting, naturally fermenting fruit in the wild. No way. Which animals have eaten throughout history.

Chapter 4: What do Kelsey and Nakia say about perseverance?

308.663 - 320.467 Matthew Kerrigan

There was like 90 percent of primatologists who thought fermented fruit was very rare. And then there's 10 percent, a handful of primatologists who thought it was so common to be uninteresting. And that was kind of like the divide.

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320.827 - 328.69 Regina Barber

That's Matthew Kerrigan, who's an author of a review paper, which is an article that looks at a lot of studies that came out in the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution.

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328.87 - 333.592 Elsa Chang

OK, so did they figure out how common it is for animals to eat fermented fruit?

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333.872 - 349.12 Emily Kwong

So this review paper claims that many animals consume large amounts of fruit to survive. And they are bound to encounter fermented fruit with low levels of ethanol. So consuming this specific kind of alcohol is most likely very common. Also, if you eat a lot of these fruits, that alcohol is going to make you tipsy.

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349.28 - 364.329 Regina Barber

Yeah. And intoxication is dangerous out in the wild. Like animals would be too vulnerable to predators or falling out of a tree. So Matthew says that our primate ancestors likely had to adapt to alcohol consumption and more or less become functional drinkers. They probably didn't have a choice.

364.57 - 381.143 Matthew Kerrigan

And so it kind of flips the story in the head. Rather than being humans consuming alcohol to get drunk, perhaps it's the other way around, that animals are either intentionally or can't avoid consuming ethanol that they're going to be exposed to on a perhaps very routine basis.

381.567 - 390.851 Elsa Chang

OK, so I have these monkeys to thank for how we evolved to be able to drink and break down alcohol because our ancestors apparently could not avoid it.

391.032 - 408.5 Regina Barber

Yeah. Yeah. Matthew says we still don't know for sure if animals actually prefer fermented fruit, like sometimes seek it out. There needs to be more studies on that. But scientists are seeing more and more evidence that this was an evolutionary advantage to have enzymes break down alcohol, which may have led to many human civilizations enjoying it.

409.02 - 419.106 Elsa Chang

So interesting. Okay. Well, we have to move on now to another story about the animal world. I hear a new fossil of a frog has been found.

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